I thought she was too obvious--but they won't make a main character the villain, not Disney.
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Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 12:06:02 pm PDT #3831 of 5827
brillig
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 12:19:33 pm PDT #3832 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Yes, like that time Elsa wasn't the villain of Frozen.
(Sure, there was someone else, but I don't buy the Disney argument. Especially since I think this is in line with the Victoria Hand in the comics, which is why people had pegged her.)
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 12:20:47 pm PDT #3833 of 5827
brillig
Elsa was a victim from the beginning and suffered from uncontrolled powers. The villains were that prince and the trade guy who wanted to take advantage.
Steph L. - Apr 02, 2014 2:04:23 pm PDT #3834 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I thought the end of the episode pretty well established Victoria Hand as the Clairvoyant. Who has more security access than she does, besides maybe Fury?
Me, too. Giving the order to kill everyone on the bus -- except Coulson -- was pretty unambiguous.
I really thought it would be Garrett, though. It made me laugh that the whole show made it seem like just about anyone -- except Coulson -- could be the Clairvoyant.
(When Coulson finally put 2 and 2 together and realized the Clairvoyant had to be in SHIELD, Tim said, "Uh, fandom got there weeks ago, man." I'm so proud.)
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 2:07:58 pm PDT #3835 of 5827
brillig
I was hoping Obvious Evil Replacement for Fury wouldn't be so obviously evil.
I did quite enjoy Coulson and Melinda staring down each other. And Fitz doing the "OMG, she can kill me with her pinky!" sidle out of the room.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 2:13:52 pm PDT #3836 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Me, too. Giving the order to kill everyone on the bus -- except Coulson -- was pretty unambiguous.
Do all her underlings know she's evil? I mean, what kind of justification is she giving for this order? Is all of S.H.I.E.L.D. evil? I suppose I will have to watch Captain America: Winter Soldier to find out!
(When Coulson finally put 2 and 2 together and realized the Clairvoyant had to be in SHIELD, Tim said, "Uh, fandom got there weeks ago, man." I'm so proud.)
Ha ha ha, right?? It was supposed to be this big dramatic moment and instead it was more like: WELL DUH.
I was hoping Obvious Evil Replacement for Fury wouldn't be so obviously evil.
You can tell she's evil because of the red streaks in her hair.
Steph L. - Apr 02, 2014 2:30:29 pm PDT #3837 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Those red streaks were so cool, though!
But evil.
Do all her underlings know she's evil? I mean, what kind of justification is she giving for this order? Is all of S.H.I.E.L.D. evil? I suppose I will have to watch Captain America: Winter Soldier to find out!
Oh, well, I guess if I *must* go see the movie, I'll drag myself there...
quester - Apr 02, 2014 4:38:16 pm PDT #3838 of 5827
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Do we need to see the movie before the next episode?
Steph L. - Apr 02, 2014 4:51:48 pm PDT #3839 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Everything I've read says that the movie is a huge game-changer in terms of the SHIELD corner of the Marvel Universe. Don't know how or why, because I'm trying to avoid spoilers (although I am spoiled for one thing, which is my own damn fault, and I need to stay off io9 until after I see the movie). So it sounds like seeing the movie before the next episode would be pretty helpful.
quester - Apr 02, 2014 5:02:31 pm PDT #3840 of 5827
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Well, if I must...