I wish somebody would have stopped and reflected that they'd killed an absolutely helpless paralyzed guy who was set up by the Clairvoyant. Who was clearly aware of what was happening to him.
Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.
River ,'Objects In Space'
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Theodosia - Apr 02, 2014 2:30:04 am PDT #3824 of 5827
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Calli - Apr 02, 2014 9:22:15 am PDT #3825 of 5827
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I thought that did come up, Theodosia. And then the other plot stuff moved away from it.
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 10:46:07 am PDT #3826 of 5827
brillig
Everyone was fairly horrified, even if it was not explicitly stated why.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 10:47:54 am PDT #3827 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I took the horror as more related to the fact that Ward had shot a man in cold blood who posed him no immediate threat, regardless of whether he was paralyzed or not.
DCJensen - Apr 02, 2014 11:10:19 am PDT #3828 of 5827
All is well that ends in pizza.
They built up the catatonic guy pretty well, saying SHIELD originally thought he could manipulate people.
When Ward first shot the guy, I thought for a moment he had committed suicide by mental push.
Then I thought maybe ward had been mentally compromised by the clairvoyant.
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 11:13:53 am PDT #3829 of 5827
brillig
Then I thought maybe ward had been mentally compromised by the clairvoyant.
And we still don't know that he wasn't. Or, heck, *he's* the Clairvoyant.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 12:00:44 pm PDT #3830 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I thought the end of the episode pretty well established Victoria Hand as the Clairvoyant. Who has more security access than she does, besides maybe Fury?
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 12:06:02 pm PDT #3831 of 5827
brillig
I thought she was too obvious--but they won't make a main character the villain, not Disney.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 12:19:33 pm PDT #3832 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Yes, like that time Elsa wasn't the villain of Frozen.
(Sure, there was someone else, but I don't buy the Disney argument. Especially since I think this is in line with the Victoria Hand in the comics, which is why people had pegged her.)
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 12:20:47 pm PDT #3833 of 5827
brillig
Elsa was a victim from the beginning and suffered from uncontrolled powers. The villains were that prince and the trade guy who wanted to take advantage.