Mal: Cut it out. Job's not done until we're back on Serenity. Zoe: Sorry, sir. Didn't mean to enjoy the moment.

'Ariel'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Liese S. - Mar 02, 2009 7:24:59 pm PST #348 of 5827
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah. Found the thing offensive.

Find the show offensive, too, y'know.


Allyson - Mar 02, 2009 7:52:57 pm PST #349 of 5827
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

wrong thread


brenda m - Mar 02, 2009 7:53:33 pm PST #350 of 5827
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Question: I'm freakin' 35. Do I still need to put my education at the top of the resume?

No.

Also, I have 2 and a half pages. What are the rules there? I have my last three jobs (dating back to 1998 to show 10+ years experience), my event planning business with budgets/charity receipts, and my writing experience.

I wouldn't go over two, if you can manage it.

Do I put that my book was featured in Entertainment Weekly?

Yeah, definitely.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2009 3:33:50 pm PST #351 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sister's just started watching Dollhouse with episode 2. She's asked a question I sure hope we get an answer to soon: Why is Langton even doing this? He's been the closest I've seen to my viewpoint character, but why he even got involved is a very good question, and right now I'm more interested in that than in Paul's quest, for instance.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 03, 2009 3:36:01 pm PST #352 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

She's asked a question I sure hope we get an answer to soon: Why is Langton even doing this? He's been the closest I've seen to my viewpoint character, but why he even got involved is a very good question

Totally. It's the most interesting thing going on, IMHO.


Juliebird - Mar 03, 2009 3:44:21 pm PST #353 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

thinking about the linked blog that said that the second Echo breaks out of her bondage, there is no more show (I disagree, I think it can still be called "Dollhouse" with Echo/Caroline on the outside trying to bring it down, or even on the inside, completely aware, trying to bring it down), I realized that Ballard's character is also similarly stuck, which got my brain waddling in weird (fanfic-y)directions: I'd rather not see Paul muddling on as a lone Mulder, but maybe the Dollhouse captures him, wipes his sure knowledge of the Dollhouse, sets him back on the street as a changed man, and his memories are stored in the databanks of personalities and Echo gets them . . . phooey, doesn't solve the Ballard issue . . .


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2009 3:50:15 pm PST #354 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that Echo can break out without violating the premise of the show--it just means that one had stated the premise wrong. The premise of Alias might have been that a woman had a second life working as an agent for what she thought was the CIA, and then her realizing it wasn't true violates that premise--or maybe that wasn't precisely the premise after all.


Liese S. - Mar 03, 2009 5:07:20 pm PST #355 of 5827
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, I think that part of the problem with the show for me is the lack of a point of view character. I can't have Echo's POV because it doesn't have a contiguous existence yet. And until I understand a little bit more, I don't have Langton's POV because I can't envision a scenario wherein I would think it acceptable to be complicit over my objections.

I normally identify with the geek, but you know that ain't happening with Topher who is one of the most toxic people in the story. It could be Ballard, but we barely know anything about him right now other than he's obsessed, ridiculed, and is ignoring his pretty neighbor.

Who else could it be? Evil madam? Hot Asian chick with no backstory yet? Any number of the other women? No, there's no there there. I need to be able to see into the story from somewhere, and if I can't then I am just myself, finding the situation reprehensible.


Juliebird - Mar 03, 2009 5:19:19 pm PST #356 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What was great about the unaired pilot was that it gave us a "Why?" to the choosing of the time entering into the story. Ballard was on the point of giving up on the Dollhouse until they meddled, and they inadvertently reaffirmed his mission.

You know, why start the story now?

In BtVS she entered a new school and Giles found her. In FF Simon and River, as well as Book and Dobson boarded Serenity and changed the crews lives irrevocably. I don't see DH having that.

But besides that, they didn't give us a viewpoint to follow, entering this world, aired or unaired pilot. Not that it's necessary, but with shows like Farscape, having Crichton's pov helped loads.


JenP - Mar 03, 2009 5:21:05 pm PST #357 of 5827

I am still watching - I though the third ep was more interesting than the first two, but I'm still just... I think I probably have the no point of entry problem, too.

I want to see where things are going, because I can't believe the show as it is is it. I don't know. I'm just very confused. It's not even, "Oh, I see what you're doing here, but it's not my bag." I just don't even see.