I got stupid. The money was too good.

Jayne ,'Objects In Space'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


JenP - Mar 03, 2009 5:21:05 pm PST #357 of 5827

I am still watching - I though the third ep was more interesting than the first two, but I'm still just... I think I probably have the no point of entry problem, too.

I want to see where things are going, because I can't believe the show as it is is it. I don't know. I'm just very confused. It's not even, "Oh, I see what you're doing here, but it's not my bag." I just don't even see.


Typo Boy - Mar 03, 2009 5:27:39 pm PST #358 of 5827
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I gave it three episodes. If it starts getting good, I'm sure someone will mention it, and I'll come back.


Fay - Mar 03, 2009 7:43:36 pm PST #359 of 5827
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Gotta say, it's very disappointing that the most positive things I'm reading here and elsewhere are from people who are willing to hang around in the hopes that it gets better. Which - you know, yes, I hope that it gets better, but, damn, I wish that I were reading SOMEBODY commenting on what's aired so far (I mean, hello, 3 episods in now!) saying what a great concept, what interesting characters, what great acting, what punchy dialogue - you know anything that wasn't an apology or an outright diss.

Because, c'mon, BtVS and AtS were awesome, and Firefly owned my ass. Not flawless, fine, but still so much goodness there, in ensemble and world-building and dialogue and just the whole thing.

I hope the show improves. A lot. I miss having a kick-ass Whedon show to get excited about.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 04, 2009 4:29:34 am PST #360 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

what a great concept, what interesting characters, what great acting, what punchy dialogue

Yeah, not so much of that in Dollhouse. I mean, it's not even an interesting or well written offensive premise! The writing is shockingly bad.

I'll keep watching because there are hints that it might get good, and because of Langton, (and because I enjoy making fun of it in a MST3K way) but, yeah, a great concept, interesting characters, great acting and punchy dialogue would have been nice to have from the get-go (if they happen at all.)

I just don't know what happened. Does Joss have unrequited Eliza love that is neutering his talents and abilities? Some sort of kryptonite situation? I don't know what to even make of it. Probably just that he fell in love with his concept (and/or Eliza) and it sucked, and there's really nowhere to go from there.


le nubian - Mar 04, 2009 4:34:21 am PST #361 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Does Joss have unrequited Eliza love

I've heard this remark several times. Is there a rumor out there about this that has some weight?


Nora Deirdre - Mar 04, 2009 4:42:57 am PST #362 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I haven't heard any rumors, but just the whole setup of the concept and the complete blindness to the reality of how the show is often indicates the craziness of love/obsession.

Also, the fact that he's so gushy about her incredible talent and how she's totally brilliant and can play anything and the evidence seems to point to.... not so much... I don't know what to think.


Fay - Mar 04, 2009 4:47:02 am PST #363 of 5827
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'd like to move to the AU where instead of Tru Calling there was a great BtVS/AtS spinoff about Faith on a motorbike, kinda Supernatural meets The Avengers, with Ethan Rayne or Giles, and probably Oz. Snappy dialogue, canonical bisexuality, random monsters. Occasional crossovery goodness.

eta Oh, Jesus - and Lindsey McDonald, back from the dead. And maybe the ghost of Lilah Morgan, making with the sexy snarky banter with Faith. And I could go for a bit of Connor too, even. I like the way she can so totally kick his ass, and is so spectacularly unimpressed by him.

looks for portal to AU.

ends up in world without shrimp


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 04, 2009 5:27:04 am PST #364 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Apparently, the road to Hell is paved with AU fanfic.

I'm willing to watch a bit more out of loyalty, as my reaction to the show is a tepid "Meh" with occasional seesaws between "that was cool!" and "do they realize how this plays out onscreen?" But if SciFi were airing Doctor Who or even a crappy Stargate series in the timeslot instead of that failed vampire soap opera, I'd be gone without looking back.


beekaytee - Mar 04, 2009 5:28:23 am PST #365 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant

I want to live in whichever AU Fay dwells in...love of shrimp notwithstanding.

Faith, as Fay sees it, is a show I'd buy a tv for.


amych - Mar 04, 2009 5:33:50 am PST #366 of 5827
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I hate shrimp anyway. I'm happy in Fay-land.

On the other hand, I'm not happy with watching anything just out of loyalty. Interested in hearing about it, reading up on it, giving it a chance, of course -- but if the thing itself is crap, I don't care if it was made by my beloved auntie.