You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Juliebird - Oct 02, 2013 4:24:26 pm PDT #3155 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I can see several reasons to keep the show and the movies mostly separate:

1) keep the shiny away so it doesn't detract from the non-supered characters

2) Avengers characters aren't supposed to have clearance to know what's going on, limits actual presence in storylines (and would otherwise be distrating if they were included even tangentially, Fury notwithstanding).

and 3) if the show tanks, the taint isn't too closely associated with the stars of the ongoing movies /cynic

I feel that I'm actually getting more acknowledgment of the larger 'verse than I'd been expecting.

Point #2 is a bit of a meta-juggle for keeping "big-name" "movie star" actors off the TV, or alternately, a reason other than not being able to afford them.

I also think that the same question sort of applies to why no other character has yet appeared in another's movie to date (why was Tony solo in IM3?) (why would any Avenger not have all the other Avenger's making appearances in their movies --maybe they should? Maybe that's cameo fanservice, maybe it would be made of awesome?! Maybe it's mere storyline streamlining?).


smonster - Oct 02, 2013 4:27:48 pm PDT #3156 of 5827
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

If all the Avengers are in each Avenger's movie, then wouldn't be very special when Avengers 2 comes out. We are getting Black Widow and Cap together.


Connie Neil - Oct 02, 2013 4:32:49 pm PDT #3157 of 5827
brillig

The TV show could be a continuing teaser for the movies, a la the reference to "a hammer" when talking about the unidentified objects.


sj - Oct 02, 2013 4:34:04 pm PDT #3158 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Someone tell me not to panic about the ratings drop from the first week to the second week.


Connie Neil - Oct 02, 2013 4:35:07 pm PDT #3159 of 5827
brillig

Agents was up against Ziva's departure over on NCIS--which I didn't watch and haven't watched online yet.


Juliebird - Oct 02, 2013 4:37:49 pm PDT #3160 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

That's kind of my point: if all the Avengers show up in Marvel's Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D., then it wouldn't be MASHIELD, it'd be an Avenger's TV show. I could see, based on the title, SJ or JR making a guest appearance, seeing as they are or at least were agents of SHIELD. And maybe there will be moments where it would make sense for another Avenger to show up. Maybe we'll get that logical moment with a guest appearance/cameo, but maybe we'll just end up with a verbal reference, either due to scheduling/budget constraints, or to contraints dictated by the premise. I'm not watching the show for glimpses of Chris Evans or RDJ (I'm watching for Clark Gregg's cheekbones).


Steph L. - Oct 02, 2013 4:43:04 pm PDT #3161 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

We are getting Black Widow and Cap together.

HELL YES WE ARE.

Ahem.


Connie Neil - Oct 02, 2013 4:48:18 pm PDT #3162 of 5827
brillig

I imagine some larger name will show up for sweeps or the midseason cliffhanger.


quester - Oct 02, 2013 5:41:32 pm PDT #3163 of 5827
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I just had a chance to watch it. I liked i just fine. I'm ok with the team. I think the blanker characters just haven't been filled out yet. I can keep loving it for Coulson and May alone, the the geek twins are terribly cute!

And bonus Sam Jackson! What's not to love!


§ ita § - Oct 02, 2013 5:44:53 pm PDT #3164 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We are getting Black Widow and Cap together

Because she'll never get a tier 1 movie (prove me wrong, Marvel, I dare you! Also use the same standards you used for Captain America, for Christ's sake). She's not a draw of Avengers--it's Cap and Thor and primarily Iron Man. This is a sop to the people who wanted Elektra to not be so horrendously awful.