Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

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Invisible Green - May 08, 2009 6:52:41 pm PDT #1581 of 5827

I'm glad I taped it, I think I missed some things, especially towards the end. How did Alpha get away? Why is Echo still a Doll? Why is Ballard not in the Attic?

You didn't miss anything; they didn't explain any of that.


Hayden - May 08, 2009 7:05:27 pm PDT #1582 of 5827
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

That was good, but it reminded me a lot of the end of Buffy Season 4.


Kevin - May 08, 2009 7:11:05 pm PDT #1583 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The Alpha getting away stuff has been cut. A lot. They clearly went over, time wise.

Overall I think it's a great episode. Visually it's better than the other 11 put together. It does have some issues I thought - after getting loaded with all the personalities, they just wipe Echo like nothing has happened, Alpha is a wee bit too mental to follow as a villain and.. Well, why were Adelle and Boyd working for the Dollhouse? What is Topher's deal? Why is Paul so obsessed with Caroline?


Barry Woodward - May 08, 2009 7:13:59 pm PDT #1584 of 5827
I fought the law and I won!

The Alpha getting away stuff has been cut. A lot. They clearly went over, time wise.

Plus the November and Sierra bounty hunter scenes. Will there be a director's cut of "Omega" on the DVD?


Kevin - May 08, 2009 7:20:08 pm PDT #1585 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I don't believe so. I'm hoping they at least put them in as deleted scenes.


Allyson - May 08, 2009 7:59:00 pm PDT #1586 of 5827
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

§ ita § - May 08, 2009 8:06:47 pm PDT #1587 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When Paul caught Echo's wedge, the words "handsome man saved me from the monsters" came to mind.

I liked it. Found it more affecting than I was expecting, even with Tim at the helms.


Typo Boy - May 08, 2009 8:19:33 pm PDT #1588 of 5827
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, it really shows what this could have been. Incidentally Ballard's deal is pretty clear. They released Mellie in return for his taking the contract to hunt Alpha. I'm guessing that Caroline goes free when Ballard catches Alpha. He's given up the attempt to destroy the Dollhouse.


beth b - May 08, 2009 8:40:46 pm PDT #1589 of 5827
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Mellie was more important in a personal way to Ballard. Caroline is still the dollhouse.

I am wondering -- is what ever the original Whiskey was ... somehow I fell she s connected to Topher. Someone he could relate to...a sister...a hacker/cracker...He wanted her to look and he wanted her to hate him - like he betrayed her.

I have the last 5 eps I might marathon.


Polter-Cow - May 08, 2009 8:53:30 pm PDT #1590 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hm. I thought it was good but somewhat of a mess. Full of a lot of things, maybe suffered from having things cut. It was a lot to take in. There was a lot of identity stuff that was what I find interesting about this show in the first place, but some of it was weird (is that really what Nietzsche was referring to?) and some of it was too on-the-nose.

Amy Acker is such a cute Doll!