Inara: We thought we lost you. Mal: Well, I've been right here.

'Out Of Gas'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


-t - May 03, 2009 1:42:25 pm PDT #1541 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

He knows he's unique, he overcame the imprinting or something, he doesn't need an outward mark, the mark of his uniqueness is to be left on others like a signature. If it helps them find their own uniqueness, well, that's nice, but it's hardly his goal.


Kevin - May 03, 2009 2:06:52 pm PDT #1542 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Something else I like about this episode - the photo Paul and Loomis pull up at the FBI of Kepler. Alan looks so completely harmless and goofy in that photo.


Vortex - May 03, 2009 5:29:54 pm PDT #1543 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Okay, I loved Victor. I mean, the actor. I could HEAR Dominic.

I think that Claire is a doll, and that's what he meant by "Whiskey". I mean, it's NATO phonetic, and it doesn't make any sense that he's asking for a drink.

Why did Alpha need Ballard to get him into the Dollhouse? He already knew how to get in and how to manipulate the security system to get himself out. He didn't need Ballard, except possibly as a distraction.

I think that he was going to use Ballard as a decoy so that Ballard would be blamed when Caroline left.

That was Amy Acker, though. The Whiskey comments were to Adelle, right?

Adele was the one who covered by saying "he wants a drink"

Well I mean if you work backwards if Victor is now all scarred up, how can he fulfill the rest of his contract?

maybe now they have the imprint of a plastic surgeon and they can take care of it now.

Oh wait, but he also slashed the real Stephen Kepler.

He had a lot of body slashes, not so many in the face. The dolls were all face oriented.

I wonder if Alpha was originally a serial killer or violent criminal and they used him as a experiment for the dollhouse. Kind of like a dirty dozen thing.


Vortex - May 03, 2009 9:07:39 pm PDT #1544 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Actually, just did a rewatch and Claire was the one who said "he wants a drink instead" and Adele said "I'm not surprised". Interesting.


Polter-Cow - May 03, 2009 10:04:12 pm PDT #1545 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Is there a possibility Adelle doesn't know Claire is a Doll? Do we know she was there at the inception of this Dollhouse? Because from the records, it looks like we finally have confirmation on the timeline: this Dollhouse, at the least, has only been running for ten years.


Kevin - May 04, 2009 1:31:50 am PDT #1546 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Okay, so, the Dollhouse ratings suck the suck. Fan write ins ain't gonna cut it. Does anybody have any ideas? The only thing I can think of doing is charting the DVD into the Amazon top ten to try to get the studio to slash the licensing fee.


Theodosia - May 04, 2009 2:52:37 am PDT #1547 of 5827
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Personally, I have enough troubles with the series that I'd rather see all the talented people (which is just about everyone connected with the series) go on to do something I like.


le nubian - May 04, 2009 3:12:51 am PDT #1548 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

P-C,

no. and if Claire is a doll, she wouldn't know that Whiskey might refer to her. However, I wonder what Adele has told her about where the "real" Whiskey is.

Adele has no problems programming the dolls for any number of tasks she might need (Caroline volunteered for such when they were looking for the mole).

It makes me wonder who isn't a doll. I think the only people who aren't who currently work for the Dollhouse are Adele and Topher. I think everyone else is a doll.


Fay - May 04, 2009 3:15:24 am PDT #1549 of 5827
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I've finally watched the first six episodes of the show, and I don't think I have anything to say at this point - I feel like I've read SO many different meta views on what's happening that it's all a bit head-go-boom.

Um.

thinks

I do think Eliza is better than I expected - but that's rather a half-hearted kind of praise. Victor I'm loving, and Mz DeWitt (Olivia Williams keeps making me want to go and find Tori Higginson and say "This! This is what Elizabeth Weir was supposed to be like! With the authority-having! And the excellent delivery!"). I've liked Sierra pretty well so far, but I'd like to see her getting more things to do.

Um.

Tahmoh is ridiculously pretty. So is the decor in the Dollhouse.

Um. Nope - really, all my thinky thoughts are gone. I do like the way they're trying to look at identity through lots of different storylines, both the ones about the Dollhouse residents and the ones about people outside it. I liked the use of art, and cubism, in the Taffy episode. I like the little hints that the dolls are remembering things, and trying to keep their emerging identities secret.

I don't know whether I'd have been interested enough to tune in on a given evening (probably, because, hey, Whedon), but mainlining six episodes in quick succession was quite fun.

Oh - you guys are talking about the Doctor being an Active? I kind of assumed she was, from someone's line earlier about there having been an Active better than Echo, or something - I forget what, exactly, but Boyd said "You mean Alpha?" - but it was never confirmed that they did mean Alpha, and her face is all slashed up, like the Actives were...I dunno, it seemed reasonable.


Vortex - May 04, 2009 5:56:19 am PDT #1550 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Is there a possibility Adelle doesn't know Claire is a Doll?

I don't think so. What reason would there be to keep that a secret from her? Boyd may not know, though.

Oh - you guys are talking about the Doctor being an Active? I kind of assumed she was, from someone's line earlier about there having been an Active better than Echo, or something - I forget what, exactly, but Boyd said "You mean Alpha?" - but it was never confirmed that they did mean Alpha, and her face is all slashed up, like the Actives were...I dunno, it seemed reasonable.

I think that we talked about that earlier, the idea that she wouldn't be useful as a doll because her scars, so they repurposed her as the doctor. But, then we were distracted by something shiny.