There's something about a food that moves all by itself that gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Joyce ,'Never Leave Me'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


victor infante - Mar 31, 2009 10:51:57 am PDT #1086 of 5827
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I suppose you could ask the original personality if she preferred being Mellie forever instead, but she wouldn't know whether it was better. And Mellie doesn't know either.

Doesn't she? That was the big reveal of the last episode ... all of what they've done and been is still in them, somewhere. Mellie, in her neutral state, remembered being attacked as Mellie; Echo had "echoes" of Caroline; Victor remembered his real self, but Sierra remembered being abused in her "neutral" state.

It's not just a glitch, whatever the Dollhouse thinks. Everything's still in there.


Polter-Cow - Mar 31, 2009 10:52:35 am PDT #1087 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't know, I can envision a scenario where someone (no Caroline, but perhaps one of the other now-Actives) has made so many wrong, bad decisions that they see Adelle's offer as a gift from heaven.

Although if you're not completely confident you would really be back in five years all the richer, it would be tantamount to suicide.


victor infante - Mar 31, 2009 10:52:45 am PDT #1088 of 5827
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I thought she broke in for that.

Really? I don't remember that at all.

Huh.

And boy am I posty today!


Strix - Mar 31, 2009 10:53:42 am PDT #1089 of 5827
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

"Mellie" doesn't exist. To offer "Mellie" that choice would be like me that making the choice for the body-owner. Same diff.

So, no, you can't offer "Mellie" that choice. She can't make it. And that's the thing -- no one knows where their choices will lead. That's what makes choice...hard. You have to decide based on the past and the present and make the future. If the future can be glimpsed, then it takes choice away, too.


-t - Mar 31, 2009 11:02:01 am PDT #1090 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

it would be tantamount to suicide.

People do choose that.

It's not just a glitch, whatever the Dollhouse thinks. Everything's still in there.

Yeah, I think Topher's assertions that he knows what is happening when he wipes minds and installs new ones are waaaaay overconfident.


Burrell - Mar 31, 2009 11:02:15 am PDT #1091 of 5827
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

It's not just a glitch, whatever the Dollhouse thinks. Everything's still in there.

That's my take on it, too.


Strix - Mar 31, 2009 11:03:36 am PDT #1092 of 5827
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Yeppers.


Vortex - Mar 31, 2009 11:04:53 am PDT #1093 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, I can say that I wouldn't choose to have a different personality (maybe a different body, though, one with a higher metabolism :) ) But, maybe someone else might want to have a different personality, perhaps someone who is really shy or has had a traumatic past.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2009 11:11:29 am PDT #1094 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Victor remembered his real self,

Did they state that explicitly? I didn't see any reason that couldn't have been a bizarre-assed engagement.

I don't remember that at all.

I seem to recall him asking if she broke in okay.


victor infante - Mar 31, 2009 11:15:59 am PDT #1095 of 5827
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Did they state that explicitly? I didn't see any reason that couldn't have been a bizarre-assed engagement.

Fair cop. He remembered something else, though, either his real self or a a self he was wearing.