Erin, what if they offered Mellie the choice? Would that be okay, or would she still have no right since she's not the original personality? I suppose you could ask the original personality if she preferred being Mellie forever instead, but she wouldn't know whether it was better. And Mellie doesn't know either.
You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.
River ,'Objects In Space'
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Polter-Cow - Mar 31, 2009 10:48:22 am PDT #1083 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2009 10:49:05 am PDT #1084 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
she already had his key -- she was able to get into his apartment to get his medication to bring it to him at work
I thought she broke in for that.
-t - Mar 31, 2009 10:51:12 am PDT #1085 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I don't know, I can envision a scenario where someone (no Caroline, but perhaps one of the other now-Actives) has made so many wrong, bad decisions that they see Adelle's offer as a gift from heaven.
Not that it's right to do, even so, but I can see someone choosing it willingly.
victor infante - Mar 31, 2009 10:51:57 am PDT #1086 of 5827
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I suppose you could ask the original personality if she preferred being Mellie forever instead, but she wouldn't know whether it was better. And Mellie doesn't know either.
Doesn't she? That was the big reveal of the last episode ... all of what they've done and been is still in them, somewhere. Mellie, in her neutral state, remembered being attacked as Mellie; Echo had "echoes" of Caroline; Victor remembered his real self, but Sierra remembered being abused in her "neutral" state.
It's not just a glitch, whatever the Dollhouse thinks. Everything's still in there.
Polter-Cow - Mar 31, 2009 10:52:35 am PDT #1087 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I don't know, I can envision a scenario where someone (no Caroline, but perhaps one of the other now-Actives) has made so many wrong, bad decisions that they see Adelle's offer as a gift from heaven.
Although if you're not completely confident you would really be back in five years all the richer, it would be tantamount to suicide.
victor infante - Mar 31, 2009 10:52:45 am PDT #1088 of 5827
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I thought she broke in for that.
Really? I don't remember that at all.
Huh.
And boy am I posty today!
Strix - Mar 31, 2009 10:53:42 am PDT #1089 of 5827
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
"Mellie" doesn't exist. To offer "Mellie" that choice would be like me that making the choice for the body-owner. Same diff.
So, no, you can't offer "Mellie" that choice. She can't make it. And that's the thing -- no one knows where their choices will lead. That's what makes choice...hard. You have to decide based on the past and the present and make the future. If the future can be glimpsed, then it takes choice away, too.
-t - Mar 31, 2009 11:02:01 am PDT #1090 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
it would be tantamount to suicide.
People do choose that.
It's not just a glitch, whatever the Dollhouse thinks. Everything's still in there.
Yeah, I think Topher's assertions that he knows what is happening when he wipes minds and installs new ones are waaaaay overconfident.
Burrell - Mar 31, 2009 11:02:15 am PDT #1091 of 5827
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
It's not just a glitch, whatever the Dollhouse thinks. Everything's still in there.
That's my take on it, too.
Strix - Mar 31, 2009 11:03:36 am PDT #1092 of 5827
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Yeppers.