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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Amy - Jun 29, 2010 3:12:14 pm PDT #9406 of 30000
Because books.

Was Robin Hood a total bomb? It's already at our dollar theater.


SuziQ - Jun 30, 2010 12:30:30 am PDT #9407 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I survived Eclipse, y'all! I enjoyed it more than expected, but my expectations were set VERY low, so that isn't saying much. Basically, I didn't want to kill anyone sitting near me and Kelly and I were able to laugh at the crazy stuff on the screen.


Jesse - Jun 30, 2010 5:45:57 am PDT #9408 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I always love the way NYTimes reviews explain the rating:

“The Twilight Saga: Eclipse” is rated PG-13 (parents strongly cautioned). It has blood, death and either nothing but sex or no sex at all.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 30, 2010 5:47:05 am PDT #9409 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

MY BFF called me last night because she wondered why everyone on Facebook was talking about a lunar eclipse last night, and she was hoping her kids could see it! I had to tell her it was a movie!


§ ita § - Jun 30, 2010 7:44:52 am PDT #9410 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In one of M Night's latest defenses against racebending accusations he said that Dev Patel plays the hero (or is the star--I can't find the article to quote). Now, I haven't watched more than a handful of the cartoons, but whuh? Is not Aang the star, being the titular character and all that?

From everything I've read so far MNS should have just stuck with "they're just anime, they have no race," because what he's said just sounds dumb.


Polter-Cow - Jun 30, 2010 7:59:41 am PDT #9411 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Now, I haven't watched more than a handful of the cartoons, but whuh? Is not Aang the star, being the titular character and all that?

Aang and Zuko are essentially dual protagonists. Zuko starts out a villain but is really more of an antihero. His character arc is one of the best I've seen in any medium. So I can see where M. Night is coming from in saying that Zuko is the real hero/star, although, like I said, I would consider him a dual protagonist on par with Aang in terms of the story.


§ ita § - Jun 30, 2010 8:02:06 am PDT #9412 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you think it's a valid defense against claims that the cast has been whitewashed? Also, is his villainy countered in the span of the first movie?


flea - Jun 30, 2010 8:05:18 am PDT #9413 of 30000
information libertarian

Not P-C, but no, and no. The movie plotwise covers the first season of the show, which ends with Zuko slightly redeemed and ambivalent, but still a bad guy.


Polter-Cow - Jun 30, 2010 8:08:40 am PDT #9414 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, the real problem with Dev Patel being cast as Zuko is that he'd make a way better Sokka. But I do think it's cool for an Indian guy to play an important character with a great dramatic arc. The fact that it makes everyone around him brown is an unfortunate consequence. And of course it wouldn't be so bad if the protagonists hadn't been cast as white instead of Asian.

I don't know, I can sort of see both sides of the argument, which is usually the case.

In the span of the first movie, Zuko does become, at the least, a sympathetic villain, in contrast to Zhao. It'd be the second movie where he really starts to grow.


§ ita § - Jun 30, 2010 8:13:23 am PDT #9415 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I also recall MNS saying that casting Dev was a win for the race-blind casting, since the character was not Indian in the cartoons. But he's still browned up the baddies...I just don't get his point of view. I understand that there are fans that don't care and won't care, but he said his kids loved the cartoon because they saw themselves in it, and he passed on the chance to translate that to a massive audience.

And all the casting sides and tales of the calls are just horrendous. What a clusterfuck.