Plus - you're terrorizing (blind) Audrey Hepburn for two hours - that's evil INCARNATE!

thumbing their nose at how stuffy their previous counterparts must have been

You get that from Star Trek, really? I thought it was quite content to co-exist in the same universe as the rest of the stories. Yes, it's whizzbangier because so are we, but I didn't feel it was at all critical of what came before it. I thought it was very inclusive of the past.

Holmes, on the other hand, is positioning itself to be the only Holmes story ever told, and therefore better than everything that came before it. I can't say without seeing it if it's thumbing its nose at its predecessors, but it's surely trying to supplant them entirely. That's its job.

Haven't seen "Blacksnake Moan". But a movie where a guy decides the best help he can give an assault victim is to keep her chained (semi-nude) to a radiator? Maybe something more than prudishness keeping people away. If that is not problematic or if it deals well with the problematic issue, you need to explain before I'll lend it my eyeballs. And no "deeply spiritual" is not enough of an explaination.

I was pleasantly surprised by this film. The premise sounded really awful and foul, but it actually was a healing, well-made story at its heart. We rented it because we'd read some good reviews, but were prepared to turn it off. It was very good.

You get that from Star Trek, really?

I didn't, but I think the marketing seemed to take that stance with all the "This ain't your papa's Star Trek" business. I also came at the movie originally as someone generally unfamiliar with the old series, so I had a different perspective than Strega.

I also came at the movie originally as someone generally unfamiliar with the old series, so I had a different perspective than Strega.

I'm not yet sure what Strega's opinion was, but I came at it from the perspective of someone who's seen all of Trek except Enterprise, and I didn't get a superior attitude from it. Did anyone else?

I'm not sure how I would describe Blacksnake Moan, but "man chains woman" isn't it. That definitely wasn't what I came away thinking about the movie.

The air of "We're going to do Star Trek right!" that I picked up from the marketing really annoyed me. I've always felt that all the alternate universe stuff was put in to prevent the legions of original Trek fans from confiscating and destroying all the prints.

No, I didn't like it. Trek: 90210.

Edit: Because if the original story line was good enough, they could have set up a new bunch of cadets following in the old guard's footsteps, then they could have the young, pretty, hop-in-the-sack kids to play with.

I didn't much like the new approach to Trek, but it seemed to me they were bending over backwards to respect what came before.

I didn't get that from the marketing, Connie. I got "We are going to do it ANEW" but that did not imply that they thought the originals were inferior. There was a lot of reverence for the original series in it for me.

Oh, and I loved it and TOS.

Trek has tried new characters before, a bunch of times. But even with the luxury of series behind them, the movies didn't pull. The only way to use the original golden characters and not mess up continuity was to go something like they did.

This is one of those Tom Bombadill things, isn't it?