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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Glamcookie - Dec 07, 2009 3:11:44 pm PST #5400 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Haven't seen "Blacksnake Moan". But a movie where a guy decides the best help he can give an assault victim is to keep her chained (semi-nude) to a radiator? Maybe something more than prudishness keeping people away. If that is not problematic or if it deals well with the problematic issue, you need to explain before I'll lend it my eyeballs. And no "deeply spiritual" is not enough of an explaination.

I was pleasantly surprised by this film. The premise sounded really awful and foul, but it actually was a healing, well-made story at its heart. We rented it because we'd read some good reviews, but were prepared to turn it off. It was very good.


Polter-Cow - Dec 07, 2009 3:19:35 pm PST #5401 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You get that from Star Trek, really?

I didn't, but I think the marketing seemed to take that stance with all the "This ain't your papa's Star Trek" business. I also came at the movie originally as someone generally unfamiliar with the old series, so I had a different perspective than Strega.


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2009 3:24:31 pm PST #5402 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I also came at the movie originally as someone generally unfamiliar with the old series, so I had a different perspective than Strega.

I'm not yet sure what Strega's opinion was, but I came at it from the perspective of someone who's seen all of Trek except Enterprise, and I didn't get a superior attitude from it. Did anyone else?

I'm not sure how I would describe Blacksnake Moan, but "man chains woman" isn't it. That definitely wasn't what I came away thinking about the movie.


Connie Neil - Dec 07, 2009 3:25:59 pm PST #5403 of 30000
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The air of "We're going to do Star Trek right!" that I picked up from the marketing really annoyed me. I've always felt that all the alternate universe stuff was put in to prevent the legions of original Trek fans from confiscating and destroying all the prints.

No, I didn't like it. Trek: 90210.

Edit: Because if the original story line was good enough, they could have set up a new bunch of cadets following in the old guard's footsteps, then they could have the young, pretty, hop-in-the-sack kids to play with.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 07, 2009 3:47:06 pm PST #5404 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I didn't much like the new approach to Trek, but it seemed to me they were bending over backwards to respect what came before.


Scrappy - Dec 07, 2009 3:52:27 pm PST #5405 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I didn't get that from the marketing, Connie. I got "We are going to do it ANEW" but that did not imply that they thought the originals were inferior. There was a lot of reverence for the original series in it for me.

Oh, and I loved it and TOS.


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2009 3:56:47 pm PST #5406 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Trek has tried new characters before, a bunch of times. But even with the luxury of series behind them, the movies didn't pull. The only way to use the original golden characters and not mess up continuity was to go something like they did.


Beverly - Dec 07, 2009 4:03:03 pm PST #5407 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

This is one of those Tom Bombadill things, isn't it?


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2009 4:13:03 pm PST #5408 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's a Tom Bombadil thing? Surely not an implication he belonged in the film?


Sophia Brooks - Dec 07, 2009 4:14:04 pm PST #5409 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Tom bombadil is where I permanently stopped reading.