So, funny thing about Pietro I was at one of the many CA:TWS showings I went to, and I'd dragged Parker and Jilli with me, and we were talking about the tag, as you do, and being concerned about the Barefoot Waif Thing and Wanda, and talking about how Wanda as a character really doesn't deserve to have that whole Joss thing (thankfully, she didn't), and I joked that Pietro did, because it's Pietro, and he's an annoying douche who I really only like in Avengers Academy. AND NOW I TOTALLY TAKE THAT BACK. This Pietro was way less annoying, damn it.

And, okay, I know it never ends well, and they really didn't have actual interaction in the film, but I still ship the crap out of Wanda and the Vision. Damn it. (Not just because Billy and Tommy are the fucking bomb.)

I didn't cotton to Wanda and Pietro at first

I think that is some pretty stellar writing, problematic writing in places or not.

I was so ready to talk about how they were underdeveloped, and now I have all these Maximoffs feels and nowhere to put them. I'm not sure when the shift happened, but the scene you mentioned is one. I also loved when Wanda realized Ultron's mission was not THEIR mission, and quietly betrayed him. A nice reminder that she's actually more powerful than him, too.

Also THREE CHEERS FOR HELEN CHO.

See also, "Blurred Lines" and "Baby, It's Cold Outside," both of which I love even though they're creepy and rapey.

Oh oh oh am I allowed to like "Blurred Lines" because that is a damn catchy song.

The more I think about it the more I feel what I didn't like about the film was that it felt like a lot of set up that went nowhere.

I mean Ultron is this super powerful force who is in the internet and can upgrade and replicate himself, and all they have to do to defeat him is kill all of his robots? Really? I felt it should have been more complicated than that.

sj, I think that's why my friends found him kinda boring. It was hard to take him seriously. But we did get Vision out of the deal, so the build up was worth it to me. And I'm not that familiar with the comics, but I loved the look of Vision. Especially when he saw Thor's cape and added one to his costume.

See also, "Blurred Lines" and "Baby, It's Cold Outside," both of which I love even though they're creepy and rapey.

Oh oh oh am I allowed to like "Blurred Lines" because that is a damn catchy song.

Totes magotes, man.

I did love the idea of Ultron as a being-in-many-bodies, though it wasn't handled nearly as well as Ann Leckie does in Ancillary Justice. He touches on it once or twice, but there were cooler things to do with that idea. As for destroying him, the real key, I thought, was Vision cutting him out of the Internet, with, um, science magic. Then it was a matter of destroying all the individual selves.

Sail, I found Vision intriguing, but I'm not really familiar with the character and they didn't really use him much. Maybe he'll be in future films?

P-C, I could see that, but that all pretty much happened off screen and all we got what Tony and Bruce telling us about it, which isn't terribly exciting.

We saw Vision burning Ultron out of the Internet in the church. It was their big fight scene. He made all the blue CGI into yellow CGI. It's compelling.

P-C, I missed that or wasn't paying much attention at that point. The 3-D was making me kind of anxious. I should probably see it again without the 3-D.

I saw it in 2D. Anyone else see it in 3D, who generally likes 3D?

I did not catch this reference but I was wondering why Veronica was called Veronica and HA.