I thought Pfeiffer's Catwoman was the best part of the second Batman movie.

She hasn't worked too much lately, but I know she's in one new movie with Chris Penn and Elizabeth Banks. I think she's a better actress than she's sometimes given credit for being.

I forgot she was in Dark Shadows, though.

between T-Hard doing Sean Connery (??)

Ha! It kind of was, now that I think about it.

Yes, totally doing Sean Connery. I had a moment at the beginning where I thought it was him.

Really enjoyed it and now totally want a Nightwing movie right away.

I tried to explain to my comics-movie loving but non comics book reading friend the total coolness of No Man's Land. I'm so psyched we got a feel for that.

Man, need to watch the first two and then go back for a rewatch. . . or possibly reread some of the books.

Also: suburban Chicago did not get the Hobbit. We got Supes, that alien invasion comedy, amongst others (Bourne Legacy). And afterwards we had a questionnaire to fill out from the Bourne Legacy marketing people.

I thought Pfeiffer's Catwoman was the best part of the second Batman movie.

As far as I can remember, Pfeiffer's had a good rep, although I can't think of any of her roles I loved--my problem is the writing and direction. I can't think what you're going to do with a feline Catwoman that's going to do more than provide the kind of titillation that Eartha and Julie were so good at--but they were neither heroes nor villains--they were "just" sex symbols.

eta: Oh, and I'm really tired by (and of, but mostly by) the Watch promos. That's a lot of focussed inanity.

I tried to explain to my comics-movie loving but non comics book reading friend the total

Yeah, I had to explain it to Tim after the movie -- the bridges being blown, the people walking across the frozen river (although the circumstances were different, it still evoked NML for me), the police who refused to let anyone leave, and the chalk Bat-symbols -- they were all so very NML to me.

Yes.

I think that Anne Hathaway was an excellent Catwoman. I'm pleased.

It's interesting to me how much of the stuff in the movie was from the comics and therefore not as meaningful to me -- I was just like, "Noooooo! Not the Brooklyn Bridge!"

I'm surprised it's taken me this long to get to my first "betrayal" "embarrassing" "does he think we're stupid?" reaction--but the recesses of IO9 which are the only other places I've been reading posts--are usually more polite than that. Apparently the Talia reveal was completely obvious from way earlier on--the Special Forces betrayal (I looked the second time round--there was no obvious time for her to have given them up, telling Fox to turn on the power source--OBVIOUS FROM THE FIRST TIME WE MEET HER, PEOPLE. So we're all dumb. I'm not going to whitefont the complaint that the Wayne Manor floors are in too bad shape for the gap between movies--they should have been refinished--that's just something he feels strongly about, mmkay? He's the kind of person that feels the Robin literal reveal is a betrayal--because Nolan pledged something to us that could be breached in that way? I think that fanboy lack of perspective is kinda creepy, in all honesty. You, young sir, are not the primary audience. Because you will not make this movie turn a profit. He would like to please you, but his investors are the people he must not betray. And if you can't let that handling of the plot points slide...you are why we don't get nice things. Thank dog, though, that we did get this nice thing, despite you and your grumbling.

One thing though--I'd assumed that the drastically reduced assets at the end of the movie meant that, for some reason or the other, they never actually proved Daggett's fraud, although they might have had the long term Fox said they would need. Do you think so? I can't work out why they wouldn't, though, unless there were just bigger fish to fry.

is a betrayal--because Nolan pledged something to us that could be breached in that way?

Bah. This was not a Batman and Robin movie. The end of the movie was the entire point of the character of The Batman -- anyone can be The (goddamn) Batman. I guess I just really like the idea that, if someone who is NOT Bruce Wayne is going to carry on the Batman legacy, that there's a nod to the damn comics in the form of a damn name, however small, and despite not really meshing with comics canon.

Besides, he wouldn't be Robin, anyway. Not pixie boots, not even the contemporary Tim Drake version of Robin. Robin is a sidekick, and Blake was never -- and can never be -- a sidekick.

Relatedly, don't think I didn't love the HELL out of how Blake pulled a Tim Drake, Boy Stalker move right at the beginning with the "I know you're Batman" thing, because I really, really did. It doesn't have to be a panel-perfect reproduction of the comics to work for me. Not at all.)