Another couple random thoughts: for a couple seconds there at the end, when Teal'c and cohorts are about to kill Blake, and Batman comes to the rescue, when Blake disarms Teal'c--that's Batman and Robin. Which is kinda cool. And might not happen again.

And does anyone know where the coordinates are for? Even vaguely? And can you remember back to the first movie to see if there was any started stipulation in the League of Shadows secret manual that says your secret hideout needs to have not so much running water, as falling water?

It feels a bit heretical to say it, but I think Anne Hathaway's Selina Kyle might be the best Catwoman because she wasn't really Catwoman. She didn't have to bother with a bunch of overtly distracting (and cheesy outside the hands of Newmar and Kitt, frankly) feline traits, nor a powered backstory. It was definitely the Nolanesque way to bring her in. And the ears had a point, so to speak. I did a quick run through the actors who've played Selina and/or Catwoman (in pieces I'm familiar with--no way I'm catching up on the animated canon, at least not soon), and I'm gonna say--she might not have bee iconic (not instantly, anyway) but she can consider herself at the top end of a tough job, and effective. I guess Michelle Pfeiffer was a directing issue, since we know she can act, right? Don't we? I seem to remember having read that somewhere that wasn't about her role fixing that inner city school and saving the kids from their ethnicities.

Michelle P. strength acting-wise is in drama. She was great in "The Fabulous Baker Boys" for example. Also was the bright light in the terrible "What Lies Beneath." I don't think action or action-related stuff is really her strength. But it has been long enough ago since I've seen that Batman, that I probably should stop talking out of my ass.

She's been on a hiatus of some short, hasn't she? I'm reasonably sure I heard much about her working for a while.

I thought Pfeiffer's Catwoman was the best part of the second Batman movie.

She hasn't worked too much lately, but I know she's in one new movie with Chris Penn and Elizabeth Banks. I think she's a better actress than she's sometimes given credit for being.

I forgot she was in Dark Shadows, though.

between T-Hard doing Sean Connery (??)

Ha! It kind of was, now that I think about it.

Yes, totally doing Sean Connery. I had a moment at the beginning where I thought it was him.

Really enjoyed it and now totally want a Nightwing movie right away.

I tried to explain to my comics-movie loving but non comics book reading friend the total coolness of No Man's Land. I'm so psyched we got a feel for that.

Man, need to watch the first two and then go back for a rewatch. . . or possibly reread some of the books.

Also: suburban Chicago did not get the Hobbit. We got Supes, that alien invasion comedy, amongst others (Bourne Legacy). And afterwards we had a questionnaire to fill out from the Bourne Legacy marketing people.

I thought Pfeiffer's Catwoman was the best part of the second Batman movie.

As far as I can remember, Pfeiffer's had a good rep, although I can't think of any of her roles I loved--my problem is the writing and direction. I can't think what you're going to do with a feline Catwoman that's going to do more than provide the kind of titillation that Eartha and Julie were so good at--but they were neither heroes nor villains--they were "just" sex symbols.

eta: Oh, and I'm really tired by (and of, but mostly by) the Watch promos. That's a lot of focussed inanity.

I tried to explain to my comics-movie loving but non comics book reading friend the total

Yeah, I had to explain it to Tim after the movie -- the bridges being blown, the people walking across the frozen river (although the circumstances were different, it still evoked NML for me), the police who refused to let anyone leave, and the chalk Bat-symbols -- they were all so very NML to me.

Yes.

I think that Anne Hathaway was an excellent Catwoman. I'm pleased.