I understand the desire to tell more "mature" stories, and I'm okay with that, but you've still got to make the characters at least somewhat sympathetic.
Or, as Jayne says: "Eating people alive? Where's that get fun?"
That's disturbing. You're emotionally scarred and will end up badly.
Anya ,'Bring On The Night'
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Kalshane - Jul 15, 2012 7:16:33 pm PDT #21663 of 30000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
§ ita § - Jul 15, 2012 7:23:05 pm PDT #21664 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
They're not all unsympathetic, just that some of the people that fight to save lives are also truly fucked up people. It shifts the balance so that some of the cops and soldiers are righteous assholes. It's not an unappealing storytelling option to me, since it's not exercised all across the board.
le nubian - Jul 16, 2012 2:41:47 am PDT #21665 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
FYI,
Reviews of TDKR are coming out. Studio lifted the embargo...
Jessica - Jul 16, 2012 2:52:32 am PDT #21666 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
In our continuing efforts to OD on Batman, DH and I watched Dark Knight last night. It holds up better the third time around than it did the second, but I still thought we'd reached the end of the movie right after Maggie Gylenhal exploded when there was a whole nother HOUR left to go. The movie is going like gangbusters up to that point and then just stops dead in its tracks. It eventually picks up again, but I was left with the distinct feeling I'd just watched 2 movies instead of 1.
I think if you dropped the Hong Kong trip and the thing with the hospital, you would have an absolutely killer 2-hour film. The only thing of any importance you would lose is the scene between Dent and Joker, which, honestly, is basically the same speech the Joker's already given to Batman ten minutes earlier. Agent of chaos rules are stupid blah blah gogetBatmancakes.
(You might also have to lose the cell-phone sonar thing, in which case, hey, bonus!)
So on the one hand, I am incredibly stoked to see DKR tomorrow night (IMAX, whee!). On the other hand I can't get out of my head that this movie is going to be 20 minutes longer than TDK. Oof.
billytea - Jul 16, 2012 3:15:48 am PDT #21667 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
On the other hand I can't get out of my head that this movie is going to be 20 minutes longer than TDK. Oof.
I confess every time I see "TDKR" I first read it as "TL;DR".
Jessica - Jul 16, 2012 3:21:52 am PDT #21668 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I confess every time I see "TDKR" I first read it as "TL;DR".
Ahahahahahaha!! I'm telling DH to steal this for his review headline. Unless he loves it, I guess.
(HONEY I KNOW YOU ARE LURKING SO CONSIDER YOURSELF TOLD.)
amyth - Jul 16, 2012 3:26:31 am PDT #21669 of 30000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
Jess, ITA. I felt that TDK was 45 minutes too long. I hope that's not the case with TDKR.
I confess every time I see "TDKR" I first read it as "TL;DR".
That's awesome. I kind of hope it ends up in his review.
Calli - Jul 16, 2012 4:56:44 am PDT #21670 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
So far, Rotten Tomatoes like it. [link]
I'd be planning to go even if they were giving it a 9% fresh, but still, it's nice to see.
Tom Scola - Jul 16, 2012 5:00:31 am PDT #21671 of 30000
hwæt
Two hours, 45 minutes? Does it have an intermission?
The Godfather was that long—it had an intermission.
§ ita § - Jul 16, 2012 5:08:13 am PDT #21672 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Return of the King was 201 minutes (to TDKR's 164 listed in IMDB) and it didn't.