I, for one, wasn't looking forward to starting my day with a slaughter. Which, really, just goes to show how much I've grown

Anya ,'Sleeper'


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§ ita § - Jan 21, 2012 6:12:10 pm PST #17697 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So...Haywire.

Off the top: all the fight scenes but one are primo. They're pretty different, but it's clear that MMA has influenced it, and there's ground, and there's pound. Lots of both. Plus guns.

The plot is...why do people keep saying super-soldier? There's no super-soldier. She's a merc. A really good merc. Not super, at all.

Soderbergh's clearly a good director, with the talent of getting people's best performances out of them, even if they're new to the game. And he does a pretty good job. But it's not complex emotionally, or psychologically meaty. There aren't that many feelings there. And, when it seems they might go into feelings, (like when Mal's father sees her kill) they just breeze past it.

Carano's...Carano is an amazing fighter. She's got a body of doom, and she's really pretty. She is *not* a great actor. I don't know if it's true that she was dubbed by San Giacomo, but it's really plausible. There's plenty of room for her to have been spoken over.

And her face isn't really that emotive, either. She's not charismatic. Drop dead gorgeous. Kick ass as all hell, and if Jason Statham can make a living, I hope she can do.

But she's not what I wanted, ultimately. I was judging her by if I'd feel comfortable with her as Wonder Woman, and...maybe some of her. But not the ambassador from another world part. Soldier and steely princess.

Bon pointed out that The Avengers II might be a good place for her. Joss could probably get a good performance out of her. But I'm not sure how much she can do by herself.

I hope we get a chance to see, though. She deserves that, and we need that.

I have no idea what a fair amount of the audience was there for. The woman next to me was startled 30s into the first fight. And she got eepier from there on in. What was this billed as, if not violent? Ah, well.

And the most satisfying (for me) move of the movie got the most nervous titters. Hmmph. Heathens.

Also, why is Channing working? Unless Soderbergh needed someone for Gina to be better than (I mean, look at the rest of the cast, dammit). I just don't get him.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 21, 2012 6:19:02 pm PST #17698 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Also, why is Channing working? Unless Soderbergh needed someone for Gina to be better than (I mean, look at the rest of the cast, dammit). I just don't get him.

I'm pretty sure he's working (or done working) with him in an upcoming movie, so no idea. At least with Michael Douglas, I know he's got him playing Liberace, which is a trip in theory.

ETA, Soderbergh had an interesting interview about why he made the movie and the choices he made with the AV Club: [link]

I find Soderbergh fascinating because he is so articulate about how he makes movies, but also he's very clear he just kind of does things for the fuck of it because he can keep his budgets in line.


§ ita § - Jan 21, 2012 6:24:19 pm PST #17699 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, that movie is based on his life, so it's not the biggest leap ever.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 21, 2012 6:25:18 pm PST #17700 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Also, why is Channing working?

Since he seems like too nice a guy to have sold his soul to the Devil, my working theory is blowjobs and lots of 'em.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 21, 2012 6:25:24 pm PST #17701 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, that movie is based on his life, so it's not the biggest leap ever.

Hmm?


§ ita § - Jan 21, 2012 6:33:24 pm PST #17702 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmm?

I read somewhere that Channing used to be a stripper.


Jesse - Jan 21, 2012 6:35:56 pm PST #17703 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

He definitely used to be a stripper.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 21, 2012 6:39:25 pm PST #17704 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

See for yourselves.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 21, 2012 6:42:57 pm PST #17705 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, I thought you were referring to Michael Douglas playing Liberace, which made me think I missed a BIG bit of undercover gossip.


§ ita § - Jan 21, 2012 6:50:27 pm PST #17706 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ugh, I can't even watch that video. I find him so...dumb. He's not cute, and he looks like he's just not keeping up with the rest of the room. Gnargh.

Oh..running. I could watch Gina running forever. She's got such great physicality.