Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


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DavidS - Apr 19, 2011 4:19:31 pm PDT #14130 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yes the car sex one. What was the point of that?

Ballard's book is one of the most respected and influential in the entire genre. His intro to the French edition is (I think) one of the key philosophical texts of the last fifty years. It's an essential media critique.

As for the movie, it does a good job of relaying the story and themes of the book, but doesn't have the same impact since the book is written in a radical style (specifically, in the manner of what Ballard would call the hidden literature of medical and scientific texts).

Ballard's value, I think, is the way he exposes narratives and environments that we choose to elide over because they're not part of the media driven story we're participating in. In Crash he's particularly interested in how we've elided over, or folded in, the amount of death inherent to freeway travel. If that many people died because of war or disaster it would be a central cultural focus, but because we've institutionalized it then it becomes invisible. But it still exists and then we fetishize that death and damage.

But he's also interested in the ignored landscapes of access roads and loading docks and airport hospital wings which stand empty but ready to receive hundreds of victims at a time. This world that our eyes pass over without ever taking in.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 19, 2011 5:52:37 pm PDT #14131 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Whereas Cronenberg's primary interest is how our perception of reality becomes our reality. In the early movies, this would literally manifest itself in physical form, but he seems to have become far more interested in how our personal mental perception becomes a reality, either through hallucination or a shared belief system (almost always non-religious, though), or both.

I'd put Crash in the shared belief system category.


tommyrot - Apr 20, 2011 5:16:08 am PDT #14132 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was a little disappointed by Crash. IIRC, the reason for my disappointment was it wasn't as weird as the book. I think maybe I'll see it again.

ION, anyone seen Your Highness?

From what I've heard, it's basically a bunch of dick-jokes. And it's very funny, apparently.


Jessica - Apr 20, 2011 5:20:03 am PDT #14133 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

From what I've heard, it's basically a bunch of dick-jokes. And it's very funny, apparently.

That's basically how DH felt - [link]


tommyrot - Apr 20, 2011 5:24:52 am PDT #14134 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

That's basically how DH felt - [link]

Cool. I just saw The Dark Crystal last night. Maybe I'll watch Labyrinth and then catch Your Highness after that.


Tom Scola - Apr 20, 2011 6:06:54 am PDT #14135 of 30000
hwæt

There's something familiar about the Cowboys & Aliens trailer...


Laga - Apr 20, 2011 6:14:43 am PDT #14136 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'm so glad I asked about Crash. Maybe I'll check out the novel. I wonder why filmmakers feel the need to tackle 'unfilmable' books.


§ ita § - Apr 20, 2011 6:24:47 am PDT #14137 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wonder why filmmakers feel the need to tackle 'unfilmable' books.

Because there's no committee that decides unfilmable?


Polter-Cow - Apr 20, 2011 6:26:32 am PDT #14138 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

There's something familiar about the Cowboys & Aliens trailer...

Ha!

What? Seriously? In Cowboys and Aliens, Daniel Craig gets to blow things up with a thing on his wrist? On his wrist? Just like Iron Man did in just about every single scene in Iron Man? Just like that thing that pretty much only Iron Man can do?


lisah - Apr 20, 2011 6:26:48 am PDT #14139 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Plus, who doesn't like a challenge!