I love that Nancy Walker originated that role on Broadway. Too bad she didn't get to play it on film.
Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!
Xander ,'Chosen'
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Kathy A - Oct 11, 2010 1:12:34 pm PDT #11512 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
Volans - Oct 12, 2010 5:44:16 am PDT #11513 of 30000
move out and draw fire
Interesting chart of Female Character Types: [link]
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2010 5:57:36 am PDT #11514 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yeah, I linked to that in Natter. I think it's an irritating and dismissive chart, myself.
Volans - Oct 12, 2010 6:20:09 am PDT #11515 of 30000
move out and draw fire
Well, Gawker blogs. They excel at irritating and dismissive.
Tom Scola - Oct 12, 2010 6:21:25 am PDT #11516 of 30000
hwæt
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2010 6:27:23 am PDT #11517 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The original source had written an essay I'd bitched about before about how she wanted to see female characters written. I just...I agree with what Zack Stentz wrote in the comments. It's too reductive when Faster Pussycat Kill Kill passes the Bechdel test and Silence Of The Lambs doesn't to use it as a be all and end all, and I think too often it is used as a shortcut to meaningfulness.
Amy - Oct 12, 2010 6:32:57 am PDT #11518 of 30000
Because books.
Wait, how can Silence of the Lambs not pass the Bechdel test? Clarice and Ardelia discuss the case at length.
§ ita § - Oct 12, 2010 6:36:37 am PDT #11519 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Clarice and Ardelia discuss the case at length.
The case is a guy, apparently, ergo fail. But this is not my argument, just repeating someone else's.
Amy - Oct 12, 2010 6:46:08 am PDT #11520 of 30000
Because books.
Oh, no, I get that, but that's ... dumb. They're discussing a serial killer, for god's sake, not a date.
Jesse - Oct 12, 2010 6:51:17 am PDT #11521 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.