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smonster - Jul 30, 2010 8:09:54 am PDT #10305 of 30000

We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Fischer pere tries to speak, and Fischer fils says, "I know, you're disappointed that I failed to be like you." Fischer pere then says, "No, I'm disappointed you tried." Thus "confirming" that pere wants fils to break up the company and go his own way.

To bring that back around to chess, Cillian Murphy's character is named Robert Fischer, Jr. Making Maurice Robert Fischer, Sr., aka Bobby Fischer. From the wiki entry on "Searching for Bobby Fischer" - "The main conflict in the film arises when Josh refuses to adopt Fischer's misanthropic frame of reference. Josh then goes on to win on his own terms with the kind of gracious sportsmanship that Fischer rejects."

Maybe coincidence, maybe not.

Jessica - Jul 30, 2010 8:14:05 am PDT #10306 of 30000

And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Did it occur to anyone on the team that "Don't be like your Dad" != "Break up the company"? There are a million ways he could decide to be his own man while still keeping the company intact...

smonster - Jul 30, 2010 8:15:43 am PDT #10307 of 30000

We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I think that's why they introduced via Browning the idea of the alternate will.

§ ita § - Jul 30, 2010 8:18:47 am PDT #10308 of 30000

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, they hinged the idea of his father's wishes being all about whether the company stayed together or not.

bon bon - Jul 30, 2010 8:21:03 am PDT #10309 of 30000

It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I thought it was fairly clear that they couldn't insert the idea without context; that's why they had to create an emotional reason that worked for Fischer. They're working backward from "break up the company", not "be your own man."

Frankenbuddha - Jul 30, 2010 8:27:31 am PDT #10310 of 30000

"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Ah, I somehow missed or misunderstood Fischer's set-up line. I'm not sure how.

Oh well, guess I'll need to see it again. Woe.

megan walker - Jul 30, 2010 8:30:58 am PDT #10311 of 30000

"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Just saw it yesterday. Definitely heard "I was disappointed you ever tried". And the chess piece didn't look like anything but a pawn to me.

Of course, the whole time I thought Leo was calling Piaf Moll, so what do I know?

bon bon - Jul 30, 2010 8:36:52 am PDT #10312 of 30000

It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Of course, the whole time I thought Leo was calling Piaf Moll, so what do I know?

So did I. Because Mal is a ridiculous name for a French person.

smonster - Jul 30, 2010 8:39:02 am PDT #10313 of 30000

We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Pretty sure I've seen screencaps of the chess piece. And I'll look again on Saturday!

As for "Moll," that's what I heard, too, and I think it's not a coincidence. When we first see Mal, she seems to be a double-crossing femme fatale. Really, she's neither mal nor moll.

megan, did you at least appreciate that Cobb/DiCaprio used the French inflection on Philippa ?

smonster - Jul 30, 2010 8:39:45 am PDT #10314 of 30000

We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

So did I. Because Mal is a ridiculous name for a French person.

Well, yes. I couldn't even find anything that it would be short for.

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