Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cass - Mar 15, 2009 6:08:40 pm PDT #3642 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

or two week's worth of something that will keep people alive

Alive, maybe. But not necessarily healthy by any measure.

I am not saying everyone should eat the way Alice Waters says, but it's not the worst idea. And saying "it's not the way the world is" is like saying that "violence is part of cities, especially inner cities." It's true. But it doesn't, to me, mean we should not strive for something more healthy and sustainable.


beth b - Mar 15, 2009 6:17:34 pm PDT #3643 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

If Waters, Pollan, ellie krieger, the Moosewood collective, or Bittman can make it easier to pick a morehealthy meal at the grocery store, I'll live with the zealotry. But that may be because I live with two chronic conditions that might be better if the planet was less toxic.


P.M. Marc - Mar 15, 2009 6:40:02 pm PDT #3644 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

P-Patches are a great thing, as are CSAs and some Farmer's Markets. If I were not on my phone, I would probably go into a paragraph or two about factory farms as tools of The Man.

Don't shoot the messenger, is what I am saying.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2009 6:44:12 pm PDT #3645 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What she seemed clueless about was the amount of time the average person can devote to cooking.

Yeah, but that's kind of the point. We don't have time because we don't make it a priority. Because we keep sacrificing everything for expedience, we wind up with nothing but a fast pace. And stress. And bad food.

The whole culture is out of whack is what she's saying.

I don't think she has a realistic view - ever. But she did create a successful business based on her philosophy. And she has helped a number of local business, over all. ( local farmers) And lots of people in this area have changed how they think about food.

If I listed all of the local culinary institutions that go directly back to Alice Waters' Chez Panisse it would be a very very long list indeed. There are probably three or four major bakeries that all feature people who started there. Innumerable organic growers. Fish mongers, sustainable farmers, chefs (of course), pastry chefs, cheese makers, etc.

And it's really the French ethos. Locally grown food, in season, simply but properly made. Even the local bartenders are pulling directly off that tradition.

She's clueless like the guy who suggested washing your hands before surgery and was dismissed as a quack.


amych - Mar 15, 2009 6:48:31 pm PDT #3646 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

P-Patches

This is Seattlese for community garden, yes? Never seen the term before, but I love that y'all have your very own.


P.M. Marc - Mar 15, 2009 6:52:50 pm PDT #3647 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yep, Seattlese. And a lot of the people with them are using them for a large portion of their foodstuffs.


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2009 7:00:42 pm PDT #3648 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Ha! As punishment, Elsie's father is threatening to send her to a convent school! Elsie has "an intense horror and dread of everything connected with that form of error and superstition."


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2009 7:01:37 pm PDT #3649 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

(I have more to say about Alice Waters, but I'm kind of flexeril-loopy right now, and I have no confidence that it would come out as anything remotely approaching what I actually want to say.)


Laga - Mar 15, 2009 7:04:24 pm PDT #3650 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

oh for goodness sakes. What does Jesus have against convent schools?


amych - Mar 15, 2009 7:05:02 pm PDT #3651 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Papists.