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Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2009 6:44:12 pm PDT #3645 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What she seemed clueless about was the amount of time the average person can devote to cooking.

Yeah, but that's kind of the point. We don't have time because we don't make it a priority. Because we keep sacrificing everything for expedience, we wind up with nothing but a fast pace. And stress. And bad food.

The whole culture is out of whack is what she's saying.

I don't think she has a realistic view - ever. But she did create a successful business based on her philosophy. And she has helped a number of local business, over all. ( local farmers) And lots of people in this area have changed how they think about food.

If I listed all of the local culinary institutions that go directly back to Alice Waters' Chez Panisse it would be a very very long list indeed. There are probably three or four major bakeries that all feature people who started there. Innumerable organic growers. Fish mongers, sustainable farmers, chefs (of course), pastry chefs, cheese makers, etc.

And it's really the French ethos. Locally grown food, in season, simply but properly made. Even the local bartenders are pulling directly off that tradition.

She's clueless like the guy who suggested washing your hands before surgery and was dismissed as a quack.


amych - Mar 15, 2009 6:48:31 pm PDT #3646 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

P-Patches

This is Seattlese for community garden, yes? Never seen the term before, but I love that y'all have your very own.


P.M. Marc - Mar 15, 2009 6:52:50 pm PDT #3647 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yep, Seattlese. And a lot of the people with them are using them for a large portion of their foodstuffs.


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2009 7:00:42 pm PDT #3648 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Ha! As punishment, Elsie's father is threatening to send her to a convent school! Elsie has "an intense horror and dread of everything connected with that form of error and superstition."


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2009 7:01:37 pm PDT #3649 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

(I have more to say about Alice Waters, but I'm kind of flexeril-loopy right now, and I have no confidence that it would come out as anything remotely approaching what I actually want to say.)


Laga - Mar 15, 2009 7:04:24 pm PDT #3650 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

oh for goodness sakes. What does Jesus have against convent schools?


amych - Mar 15, 2009 7:05:02 pm PDT #3651 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Papists.


billytea - Mar 15, 2009 7:05:27 pm PDT #3652 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

oh for goodness sakes. What does Jesus have against convent schools?

They're run by Catholics, I'm guessing.


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2009 7:07:24 pm PDT #3653 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yep. Elsie, by the way, has been reading about the Inquisition and is convinced that she'll be tortured.


Ginger - Mar 15, 2009 7:11:30 pm PDT #3654 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I think Alice Waters has been a hugely influential force in moving towards more locally grown food and home cooking, but she came off as unrealistic about the amount of time involved. Does anyone really think priorities can be changed enough that a single mother with a demanding job can spend 30 minutes, plus clean up, to make breakfast? Yes, it's a symptom of a society without traditional family support, little employer support for family time and reduced incomes, but that's a lot to ask of food.