Well, then, this is a day I'll feel good to be me.

Mal ,'Trash'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Torque - Mar 13, 2009 6:36:24 pm PDT #3539 of 30000
Bad Wolf

creepy indeed

Is it better to drink alone at home or at a bar? Seems to be my holy grail question


DCJensen - Mar 13, 2009 6:36:47 pm PDT #3540 of 30000
All is well that ends in pizza.

I'm also really having trouble figuring out the money in this book. I'm used to things in old books seeming absurdly cheap, but the amounts that people are paying for things here seem like just as much as we'd pay now, if not more.

Some foods that were once very expensive eventually became cheaper, and then rose in price with normal inflation.

What kinds of items caught your attention?


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 6:39:33 pm PDT #3541 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Actually, it was the allowances that first caught my attention. The kids -- eight-year-old kids, who live in a semi-rural area where going into town, where the stores are, is a special treat -- are getting ten dollars a month. Elsie spent close to a hundred dollars on Christmas presents.


Vortex - Mar 13, 2009 6:43:51 pm PDT #3542 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Again, it sounds pornarrific.

"'A merry Christmas and a happy New Year!' little Elsie," he said, kissing her on both cheeks. "Now I have caught you figuratively and literally, my little lady, so what are you going to give me, eh?"

come on!


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 6:50:46 pm PDT #3543 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Huh? I got to the end of the book, and it totally ends in the middle of the story! Elsie is worried that her father doesn't love Jesus yet, and she's worried that he might be marrying a woman she really doesn't like. The Jesus thing isn't resolved. The reader knows that her father isn't going to marry that woman, but for Elsie, the book ends with her crying herself to sleep.


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 6:55:30 pm PDT #3544 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

It looks like the second book starts the next morning. I'm not sure I have the strength to go through another one of these.


DCJensen - Mar 13, 2009 6:56:00 pm PDT #3545 of 30000
All is well that ends in pizza.

According to one source on the Internet, Elsie Dinsmore was written by the author to support herself after an accident.

In 1867 it was the second best selling juvenile, behind Little Women.


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 6:59:55 pm PDT #3546 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

In 1867 it was the second best selling juvenile, behind Little Women.

Which is also a book about girls, with something of a religious message, and light years ahead of Elsie in terms of any sort of measure of quality, or even propriety. Little Women? Not creepy. The March girls were self-sufficient, they helped other people, and they had actual personalities. (By the third sequel, Jo's Boys, the moralizing had gotten to be a bit much, but still nowhere near this.)


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 7:21:57 pm PDT #3547 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I feel like I need to go read Anne of Green Gables or The Secret Garden to cleanse my brain.


Fay - Mar 13, 2009 7:23:02 pm PDT #3548 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

...that really is the creepiest book ever, Hil.

Honestly, the whole thing just sounds like it's trying to groom little girls for unsavoury goings on.