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Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Mar 10, 2009 5:52:16 am PDT #3158 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Tell her you don't think its a very Christian thing to do?

And everyone has already seen the photoshopped picture as Chatty has been working on it, so IF she actually listened to me and decided that maybe workplace discrimination isn't the way to go, everyone is going to wonder where the funny picture is. Ha ha ha, look at IT guy! He's a grossly overweight woman in a bikini, ha ha ha!


Trudy Booth - Mar 10, 2009 5:53:36 am PDT #3159 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Then you get to scold ALL of them for being unchristian!


Steph L. - Mar 10, 2009 5:56:25 am PDT #3160 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

it really bugs me that it's still socially acceptable to make fun of fat people. Even some progressive people I knew would do that.

Because ignorant bigots believe that you can't help if you're black, you can't help being disabled, but OBVIOUSLY fat people deserve shame and scorn because they can't control themselves and just gorge themselves all day long while sitting on the couch watching soap operas.

It's a moral issue. You can't get away with* discriminating against people whose "problem" wasn't "their fault," but since fat people brought it on themselves, then it's open season.

*(Generally speaking, you can't get away with being a racist shithead at work; obviously there are still racist shitheads and jackholes who say nasty things about disabled people, but while I've often seen people call each other out on their racist comments -- "Hey, that's a racist comment, and I don't appreciate it," -- I have NEVER heard anyone call someone out for making fun of fat people. Ever.)


Sophia Brooks - Mar 10, 2009 6:30:19 am PDT #3161 of 30000
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Steph- what I do in those situations is just say, when shown the picture, "Wow, that makes me really uncomfortable and I don't really find it funny (or I do not want to participate)." But, my office a) thinks I am really nice and b) thinks I am really weird. The fat talk comes up a lot because a) one employee hates her ex-husband, who is overweight and so she makes fun of him a lot b) I work with people who run a weight management center and c) my boss is constantly talking about her weight loss and wanting to be congratulated at her self control. I also did it when we were having our cholesterol, blood sugar, and blood pressure levels checked "for fun".


Steph L. - Mar 10, 2009 6:32:40 am PDT #3162 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Sophia, how do people respond when you say that? Because I'm afraid that if someone tells me "It's JUST a joke!" or "Don't be so sensitive!" that I will lose my shit.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 10, 2009 6:34:46 am PDT #3163 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

and one is somewhat overweight and in her mid-thirties, so the older generation seems to have given up on her.

t rolls eyes at the older generation

I know that I have had panic attacks on Wellbutrin, but I can't say if they're related. (Although I never ever had a panic attack on Zoloft.)

I take a low dose (50mgs)of Zoloft every day with my (generic) Wellbutrin and it has done wonders for my anxiety.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 10, 2009 6:38:50 am PDT #3164 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

cereal, because I ran away from my desk for an hour+ and forgot to send my previous message.

GOD, Steph. I don't know- it might be worth it to be known as the office bitch if people stopped doing it. Or at least stopped exposing it to you. I say call them on it. Easier said than done, I know. But otherwise... you're kind of passively accepting that this is OK.


Dana - Mar 10, 2009 6:41:36 am PDT #3165 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Sophia, how do people respond when you say that? Because I'm afraid that if someone tells me "It's JUST a joke!" or "Don't be so sensitive!" that I will lose my shit.

You could just try sticking with "I don't find it funny."

Rather than what I would be tempted to do, which is to explain that "it's just a joke" is the lamest excuse in the history of the world.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 10, 2009 6:42:21 am PDT #3166 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Sophia, how do people respond when you say that? Because I'm afraid that if someone tells me "It's JUST a joke!" or "Don't be so sensitive!" that I will lose my shit.

I have been told it is just a joke, and I just sort of look at them and walk away-- you can't really make someone find a joke funny. No one has asked me to be less sensitive, because I am sort of known as being epically sensitive. I also don't get into the fact that I think THEY are being offensive-- just sort of act surprised and confused and hope they get it. I don't have the courage yet to be forceful-- I just sort of say it and walk away.


Steph L. - Mar 10, 2009 6:50:50 am PDT #3167 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But otherwise... you're kind of passively accepting that this is OK.

I know. The problem is that Big!Boss's daughter (the instigator of this fuckwittery) is actually considered our superior, not a work peer, despite the fact that she's friendly and buddy-buddy. When push comes to shove, we were told that we may not question the decisions she makes about office procedure (changing our office hours, etc.) and that she's our "boss." I guess in an Office Manager type way.

Calling out a work peer is one thing, but calling out a superior is entirely different. Not morally, of course, but in terms of whether I want to keep my job.