Hil, that sounds like your doctor was using outdated diagnostic criteria. Would link you but I am on my iPhone and it's a pain.

HMS symptoms smonster has collected from around the net:
Vasovagal syndrome
Easy bruising
  Brighton score
Hypotension
Anxiety
Sublux multiple joints or one joint multiple times
Incontinence
RSI
Epicondylitis 
Scoliosis 
Soft skin
Pronation/plantar fasciitis

this is not an exhaustive list.

ION, am at KBD's. He is hot to the touch. Didn't register a temp but had just taken a sip of water so he has to wait and do it again.

I have a cute kid story. I was in Target looking for a jump rope and on the same aisle was a mom with two girls, one was in the cart and very talkative she and I had rather one side conversation.

CutieHead Kid: My mommy got me this! (Holds up some kinda play set) She picked it out for me.

Me: That's nice.

(meanwhile her mom points out the jumpropes I'm looking for)

Cutiehead: You're not a bad stranger that's going to take me way from my mommy. Are you a good stranger and you won't take me away. I'm not supposed to talk to bad strangers but I can talk to good strangers. You won't take me away right?

Me: Um, nope. Not a bad stranger, and you're mom is right there.

Her mom explained they learned about strangers in school. So I told the girl it was important to pay attention for Bad Strangers.

I ask her how old she is and she says 4.

Her Mom says :She came out of the womb this way (and made a talky hand).

The little sister in the meantime starts to cry and the Mom says: They are so different a social butterfly and a shy one.

As they are walking to the other aisle I hear:

"I'm not the shy one! I like people. I'm not the shy one am I Mommy?"

A little while later I hear the same voice telling someone else "Look what my mommy bought me! She picked it out just for me!"

It was funny and cute.

Hil, that sounds like your doctor was using outdated diagnostic criteria.

He's discussed it with some other doctors, and he said the conclusion was that I don't quite fit the diagnostic criteria for anything. And a lot of doctors are now saying that HMS is a type of EDS and not a separate thing. There really isn't a good set of diagnostic criteria for the types that don't involve specific genes, and for someone like me with a weird presentation, he says the consensus is that it's something like EDS, but no one's quite sure if EDS is the right label to put on it.

Article from a doctor at Johns Hopkins who's done a lot of the genetic research: [link]

There is disagreement as to whether the "benign familial articular hypermobility syndrome" is identical to EDS, hypermobility type or represents a unique condition [Grahame 1999]. The distinction is subtle and relates to degree of joint complications and presence or absence of skin manifestations. However, first-degree relatives of probands with hypermobility type EDS often have relatively asymptomatic joint laxity and mild or absent skin manifestations. Therefore, the benign hypermobility syndrome is included as EDS, hypermobility type for this review.

Zenkitty just shared this in Natter, and it provided me a much needed laugh. I just know the Bitches will also appreciate watching someone get "shagged by a rare parrot".

Zenkitty just shared this in Natter, and it provided me a much needed laugh. I just know the Bitches will also appreciate watching someone get "shagged by a rare parrot".

Kakapo! Too awesome.

heh, tommy.

It was funny and cute.

Oh, that is SOOOOO like Olivia. She just NEVER EVER stops talking. I just took her to the grocery and I feel completely spent. I want a sensory deprivation tank just for the quiet.

Is it wrong that I kind of have a crush on one of the Wiggles?

Is it wrong that I kind of have a crush on one of the Wiggles?

I think we need to know which one before we can make a judgment call.