Oh, I didn't make myself clear, as usual.

I don't mean to see when and where X calls Y "The Other". I mean, it's done 24/7, so it's kindda boring to me.

I mean to see how it's done, and what, perhaps, it says about us as a society. Because as I said, ethnographies are in a way SF/F. And if that's the case, we can't be that far ahead with our SF/F literature, which will only show, I vaguely guess, a very certain perception of "The Other" - yes, in the very place which should be the farthest of all, imagination speaking.

In anthropology, the "how" is so much more important than the "why". Kindda like Rome studies. I find it rather neat.

Cash, did you see my tooth fairy post? I ended up getting a wee gift rather than money as that seemed to be what Franny wanted, but had I gone with money it probably would have been a dollar. Instead it was some Hello Kitty sticker thingy.

Oh, and thank you, SH - I duly noted that, and will try to get my claws on it ASAP.

I want to see how "The Other" is being portrayed in SF/F, and what does it mean in terms of the sociology of deviance.

A good friend of mine studies film, and is working on a dissertation about disability in cult film and TV.

It's not really my area, but it's fascinating, and I might try and write a paper with her sometime.

The Monkeysphere article was cool!

Anyway, it just confirms my thoughts that we're all doomed....

Oh man, don't get me even started.

Just as we all are The Other, I also think all of us are a little disabled, this way or another.

It's just that stupid structure of society which targets some as more disabled or more deviant or more you-name-it than others.

Shir: Have you met me? I EXIST in the tangentially related!

NATLBSB.

And if that's the case, we can't be that far ahead with our SF/F literature, which will only show, I vaguely guess, a very certain perception of "The Other" - yes, in the very place which should be the farthest of all, imagination speaking.

This is a discussion - sometimes an argument - I have with other fellow SF/F readers: the problem with all fiction is it's written by *humans*. We cannot conceive of the truly alien, all we can do is take a certain number of steps away from "the norm" (whatever THAT means) - and if an author came up with the TRULY alien, it would be utterly incomprehensible. In fact, discussions I've had with fans of "outsider art" sometimes turn into "are they actually postulating the truly alien?" questions. We call the artists insane because their art is so...absolutely...foreign...that it APPEARS to be insanity.

(and THAT turns into "what is sane?" and consensus-driven public policy based on statistical averages of behavior...etc....)

Whee! TooMuchCaffieneMan strikes again.

Shir, just asking the question made me very happy.

I'm speaking of the endless justification of a lesson, nut actually thinking about how to research, scaffold and present a lesson. My curriculum classes have made me a better teacher -- I do resent all of the minute, CYA, NCLB bs that is present in public secondary ed.

There are similar problems in the UK education system. Ridiculous amounts of paperwork, 'targets' that bear no relation to reality, and a massive lack of funding for the schools where it's most needed - all contributing factors in my current break from high school teaching. I loved it, but it was impossible to sustain the energy needed for teaching well.

It's just that stupid structure of society which targets some as more disabled or more deviant or more you-name-it than others.

That's very close to the social model of disability* - which is the perspective from which I work. It's more of a British thing than a US one, although a lot of US-based disability studies work focuses on the social construction/creation of disability too. I can point you to papers if you're interested.

*The main difference being my difficulty with the 'everyone's disabled' theory. I don't hold to that view, although some academics do. That's a longer conversation, though, and since it's nearly 10pm here (and I am disabled and need a lot more sleep than most people), perhaps we should address it another time...!

and since it's nearly 10pm here

What kind of crazy, alien talk is this?

(Sorry)

This is a discussion - sometimes an argument - I have with other fellow SF/F readers: the problem with all fiction is it's written by *humans*. We cannot conceive of the truly alien, all we can do is take a certain number of steps away from "the norm" (whatever THAT means) - and if an author came up with the TRULY alien, it would be utterly incomprehensible.

Yeah, that bugs me from time to time. Just about every alien I've ever seen in SciFi movies, books, etc. still seems on some level (if not many levels) to be human to me.