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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Jan 10, 2009 11:48:21 am PST #526 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

He's a sexist tool who is running a cult. I kind of pray for a massive scandal to pull his ass down, because he's begging for a fall.

The article briefly mentioned the sexism, and did mention the cult-like tendencies, but kind of made them seem like part of Calvinism, which did seem odd to me.


Maria - Jan 10, 2009 12:25:37 pm PST #527 of 30000
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Damn, brenda. I'm so sorry. Much strength and peace to you and Lucy.


erikaj - Jan 10, 2009 12:27:56 pm PST #528 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Calvinism *is* sexist, right? Or am I mixing something up?


Steph L. - Jan 10, 2009 12:40:09 pm PST #529 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Calvinism *is* sexist, right? Or am I mixing something up?

A literal interpretation of the bible is sexist; it's not restricted to just Calvinism.

That article freaked me out, because -- with 2 differences -- it could be my ex-FAC: (1) mine was in Ohio; (2) they don't (didn't?) preach Calvinism. (Although they came very VERY close.) But they do the whole thing of "Look at how culturally relevant and hip we are with our tattoos and piercings and swearing and smoking and drinking and indie rock! Woo!!! Our pastor wears jeans and t-shirts when preaching! Woo!!! PRAISE HIM!!!"

Actually, my ex-FAC was a lot like the church that Bobby Hill joined (for one episode) in King of the Hill.

Don't get me wrong; there's nothing wrong with a church being culturally relevant. If people don't see how a faith from a nearly 2,000-year-old book can fit into their lives, that's problematic. (Although lots of non-hipsters *also* don't see how faith fits into their lives. So a tattooed, pierced, swearing pastor might freak *those* people out even more.)

What bothers me is not their attempts at being culturally relevant; my problem is how they *boast* about it and make a huge deal out of it, instead of just living however they live and doing their thing.


tommyrot - Jan 10, 2009 12:47:00 pm PST #530 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Calvanism had that whole "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" thing, right?


Connie Neil - Jan 10, 2009 12:47:39 pm PST #531 of 30000
brillig

Teppy, do you watch "Bones"? There was an episode this season that featured a holy roller televangelist who disappeared and was rediscovered when the female preacher of a Chesapeake Bay village church was murdered and was revealed as the holy roller who got a sex change. It had some interesting things about what was true faith, the images of righteousness, etc. (Plus it was one of those eps whoch showed the essential differences between Booth and Bones, esp. re: religious faith.)


Steph L. - Jan 10, 2009 12:48:36 pm PST #532 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Teppy, do you watch "Bones"?

I don't, but that episode sounds interesting.


tommyrot - Jan 10, 2009 12:48:58 pm PST #533 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Fuck, I'm running late. Anyone know if Amtrak trains are running late in Chicago? Their website is useless for that.


erikaj - Jan 10, 2009 12:49:01 pm PST #534 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

That was a very good KOTH. "He says he was in his room reading his Bible...how do I punish him for that?"


P.M. Marc - Jan 10, 2009 12:55:44 pm PST #535 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Tep, everything I read about Mars Hill makes me think of your FAC.

This, by the way, includes the text of their sermons and Driscoll's responses to, oh, everything.

(My first reaction when I heard of them, before I knew their theology, was, naturally, to check them out on their website. And then I ran screaming.)