That argues for reparations. Lots of psychological damage. We need to provide with enough so they don't need to work, and pay medical bills including mental health treatment. Also some of them are guilty, but if they were tortured that contaminates the evidence against them and they still have to be let free. Innocent or guilty if they were tortured they have to be let free. (In theory not true, but if you tortured someone try to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that any evidence you have against them is independent of that.) Really this is not complicated. It may be hard, but it is simple.
Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!
Xander ,'Chosen'
Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Typo Boy - Jan 22, 2009 4:58:07 pm PST #3143 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
tommyrot - Jan 22, 2009 4:58:21 pm PST #3144 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Is anyone else having issues with Gmail?
It's fine for me....
JenP - Jan 22, 2009 5:04:13 pm PST #3145 of 30000
I just changed browsers and got in fine. Hmmm.
§ ita § - Jan 22, 2009 5:07:04 pm PST #3146 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
In pain, juliana. This one hurt much more than the others. But at least it's a smaller spot than was uncomfortable last time.
sarameg - Jan 22, 2009 5:12:02 pm PST #3147 of 30000
ita, I hope the pain subsides soon.
sarameg - Jan 22, 2009 5:29:32 pm PST #3148 of 30000
In completely superficial news, I'm trying to break Loki of denning in the litterbox. I know why he does it but uhg.
Theodosia - Jan 22, 2009 5:38:52 pm PST #3149 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
If after seven years, you can't put together a case against some of these guys that doesn't rely heavily on tortured confessions, you just don't have a case, whether or not you "think" the guy is guilty.
I do believe that some of these detainees may be guilty, but if you can't prove it without playing Calvinball with the rules of law and justice, it's time to give it up.
sarameg - Jan 22, 2009 5:48:20 pm PST #3150 of 30000
Presidents in my lifetime: Ford,Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. singsong :One of these things is not like the other.
FINALLY. I'm in love with the idea we're finally getting closer to understanding this nation as one of immigrants and natives of all and a little closer to it not mattering. I'm a generation removed from immigration, but I'm an "acceptable" immigrant-progeny. My -ism ran its course before my dad grew up.
Jesse - Jan 22, 2009 6:00:59 pm PST #3151 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I do keep thinking about the primaries, when I assumed John Edwards would be the nominee, because I couldn't really imagine either the woman or the black guy actually taking it, even without getting into the baggage their actual names gave them.
Bananas.
DavidS - Jan 22, 2009 6:04:47 pm PST #3152 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Bananas.
That shit's bananas.