I just changed browsers and got in fine. Hmmm.
Young Simon: So... how'd the Independents cut us off? Young River: They were using dinosaurs.
'Safe'
Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
JenP - Jan 22, 2009 5:04:13 pm PST #3145 of 30000
§ ita § - Jan 22, 2009 5:07:04 pm PST #3146 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
In pain, juliana. This one hurt much more than the others. But at least it's a smaller spot than was uncomfortable last time.
sarameg - Jan 22, 2009 5:12:02 pm PST #3147 of 30000
ita, I hope the pain subsides soon.
sarameg - Jan 22, 2009 5:29:32 pm PST #3148 of 30000
In completely superficial news, I'm trying to break Loki of denning in the litterbox. I know why he does it but uhg.
Theodosia - Jan 22, 2009 5:38:52 pm PST #3149 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
If after seven years, you can't put together a case against some of these guys that doesn't rely heavily on tortured confessions, you just don't have a case, whether or not you "think" the guy is guilty.
I do believe that some of these detainees may be guilty, but if you can't prove it without playing Calvinball with the rules of law and justice, it's time to give it up.
sarameg - Jan 22, 2009 5:48:20 pm PST #3150 of 30000
Presidents in my lifetime: Ford,Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. singsong :One of these things is not like the other.
FINALLY. I'm in love with the idea we're finally getting closer to understanding this nation as one of immigrants and natives of all and a little closer to it not mattering. I'm a generation removed from immigration, but I'm an "acceptable" immigrant-progeny. My -ism ran its course before my dad grew up.
Jesse - Jan 22, 2009 6:00:59 pm PST #3151 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I do keep thinking about the primaries, when I assumed John Edwards would be the nominee, because I couldn't really imagine either the woman or the black guy actually taking it, even without getting into the baggage their actual names gave them.
Bananas.
DavidS - Jan 22, 2009 6:04:47 pm PST #3152 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Bananas.
That shit's bananas.
Typo Boy - Jan 22, 2009 6:06:34 pm PST #3153 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
If after seven years, you can't put together a case against some of these guys that doesn't rely heavily on tortured confessions, you just don't have a case, whether or not you "think" the guy is guilty.
I do believe that some of these detainees may be guilty, but if you can't prove it without playing Calvinball with the rules of law and justice, it's time to give it up.
This. If some of the detainees are dangerous, we have to live with that. Our government tortured them, making it impossible to get convictions by any standard of innocent until proven guilty (presumption of innocence is an American tradition in both civilian and military courts.). So we need to let them go, and live with any risk that entails.
Hil R. - Jan 22, 2009 6:11:24 pm PST #3154 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
OK, the Gitmo sketch on Daily Show was just the perfect balance of insightful and surreal and wtf?