I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Jan 22, 2009 9:10:46 am PST #3072 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

But I think a lot about how to explain these things.

Thank you! I wish I'd had you for 4th grade math!


tommyrot - Jan 22, 2009 9:11:31 am PST #3073 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What I really want to see from Obama is some sort of investigation/prosecution of Bush et al for violations of US and international law in the torture of detainees. I know Obama wants to "look forward" but maybe he can appoint Patrick Fitzgerald to head an investigation? If prosecutions are warranted, I'm sure Obama could do a good job explaining to the people why they're necessary.


Emily - Jan 22, 2009 9:16:36 am PST #3074 of 30000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Thank you! I wish I'd had you for 4th grade math!

Well, I'm not saying I actually SUCCEED in explaining things well. Just that I think about it!

Do you think Obama could just reopen the WPA? That would be cool.


Glamcookie - Jan 22, 2009 9:21:17 am PST #3075 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Obama to Bush: I Can Release Your Records. Don't Like It? Sue.

SQUEE!!! Does this mean they might prosecute for illegal Bush activities? Cause I thought I heard that Obama has been making noises about not doing that ("moving forward, not looking back") and to that I say FUCK NO! PROSECUTE! It's important as it sets a precedent for future administrations.


Fred Pete - Jan 22, 2009 9:23:01 am PST #3076 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

tommy, I'm with you almost 100%. Because "looking forward" doesn't just mean "stop it," it means "never again." That means we have to investigate and, where appropriate, prosecute.

The only part where I differ is that by saying, "Bush et al," you're suggesting that the investigation expressly include certain particular individuals. The investigation can't be seen to prejudge anyone. The point is to fix it, not to get back at anyone.


tommyrot - Jan 22, 2009 9:28:00 am PST #3077 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

to that I say FUCK NO! PROSECUTE! It's important as it sets a precedent for future administrations.

Not only that, but it sends an important message to our friends and enemies that we're a nation of laws to which even our leaders are accountable.


Burrell - Jan 22, 2009 9:32:31 am PST #3078 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Hi there!

So I hate to be a killjoy WRT Obama's tough talk about releasing all of Bush's presidential records, but I thought that much of it has already been destroyed. Didn't Cheney's office already destroy all email, cell phone records, etc? Or am I misremembering?


tommyrot - Jan 22, 2009 9:33:56 am PST #3079 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Didn't Cheney's office already destroy all email, cell phone records, etc?

I'm not sure. A lot, anyway.


juliana - Jan 22, 2009 9:34:15 am PST #3080 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Does this mean they might prosecute for illegal Bush activities? Cause I thought I heard that Obama has been making noises about not doing that ("moving forward, not looking back") and to that I say FUCK NO! PROSECUTE! It's important as it sets a precedent for future administrations.

I remember hearing some dude somewhere (this was a few weeks ago, plz forgive lack of brain) say that the best way to go about it would be to appoint a (political) committee to assemble a (non-political) committee to delve into any possibly prosecutable offenses made by the former Administration and to make a case for the prosecution of said acts. That way, it gives time for the nation to heal and things to get back on course, while still Doing Something about it. Also, it gives time to build a real case.


megan walker - Jan 22, 2009 9:34:47 am PST #3081 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Especially since in places like NYC and SF, rents are holding steady. In San Francisco, average rent is projected to go up 3.3% this year, with only a minor bump in vacancy.

I find that hard to believe since I have been vaguely looking since August and there has been a noticeable downturn ($50-100) in my price range and things are available for much longer on craigslist now than in the fall. Unless that projection is for the coming year and they are using a January low as a base.