Oh great. Now "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" and the theme from Sanford & Son are trying to do a mashup in my head.
Heh. During the press conference he should have faked a heart attack to gain additional sympathy....
She ain't movin'. Serenity's not movin'.
Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'
Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
tommyrot - Jun 25, 2009 7:09:14 am PDT #25776 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
javachik - Jun 25, 2009 7:10:39 am PDT #25777 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
It wasn't just a "guy couldn't keep it in his pants" scenario which is a higher degree of self-deception and bad conduct.
That's an interesting take on it, Theodosia. I'm not married, but as a girlfriend, I'd be far, far more upset at my SO's romantic, drawn-out affair than I would be a "he got really drunk and screwed someone" scenario. I can speak from experience that the former hurts much more than the latter. I don't know that I could assign the former as less full of self-deception or bad conduct.
Gudanov - Jun 25, 2009 7:11:13 am PDT #25778 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping
It wasn't just a "guy couldn't keep it in his pants" scenario (which isn't to condemn polyamory, if it's conducted consciously and honestly) which is a higher degree of self-deception and bad conduct.
It may be a lesser degree of bad conduct, but a higher degree of betrayal.
javachik - Jun 25, 2009 7:12:47 am PDT #25779 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
(And) how can a higher degree of betrayal not be worse conduct?
Eh, we're just mincing words at this point. My South Carolinan friends can't stand Sanford or his wife.
brenda m - Jun 25, 2009 7:14:58 am PDT #25780 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
So, wait, the argument is that "hey, I fucked you over, but not causally - I thought it over and I really, really wanted to" is somehow better than just "I wasn't thinking and I fucked you over". Not sure I can go there.
javachik - Jun 25, 2009 7:16:01 am PDT #25781 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
Ayup, Brenda.
Amy - Jun 25, 2009 7:18:02 am PDT #25782 of 30000
Because books.
I think it's easier for me to feel, from the outside, a little compassion for someone who legitimately fell in love, rather than just had a little sugar on the side. It does *not* excuse him not coming clean with his wife, and certainly makes the betrayal to *her* that deeper, though.
Barb - Jun 25, 2009 7:20:27 am PDT #25783 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”
It's a certain measure of arrogance. These types of guys-- it can't just be some seedy affair that would make them break vows and go against everything they believe morally. Nope, it has to be something Grand! and Glorious! (See: Father Alberto Cutíe)
Gudanov - Jun 25, 2009 7:20:30 am PDT #25784 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping
How can a higher degree of betrayal not be worse conduct?
Bad way of putting it. Without the context of being married, causal sex would be considered worse conduct that sex with someone you have sincere feelings about. In the context of being married, it is a greater betrayal.
Eh, Amy put it better.
javachik - Jun 25, 2009 7:22:21 am PDT #25785 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
Now that I think about it, I am all over the map when it comes to affairs and matters of the heart. I know how *I've* felt when it's been personal, but I know of a few occasions when for some reason I've not been as judgmental. Take Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn. Great soulmates, but still...he was married. That shit would never go down that way today. Same with Bogie and Bacall.