Travers: Perhaps you'll favor us with a demonstration while we're here. Buffy: You mean, like, right now? 'Cause, already had my recommended daily dose of fights tonight.

'Potential'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - May 29, 2009 7:47:35 pm PDT #22005 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But know what the hell a good book looks like.

Spoken like an editor!


Typo Boy - May 29, 2009 7:55:11 pm PDT #22006 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Dinner: a half piece of toast moistened with soy milk, followed by tylenol and ipubuferin. Fuckin Tino gave me one of my sick headaches. As a bonus, got some weird kind of foot cramp where my toes would spasm and spontaneously contort themselves into painful positions. Feeling better and going to sleep.


Connie Neil - May 29, 2009 8:04:12 pm PDT #22007 of 30000
brillig

Writing to your audience is pandering straight up.

Isn't that kind of close to "You'll read what I write and like it, peon"? If you have an audience in the first place, they like what you write. Do you then stop writing what they like, because otherwise you're pandering to them? God forbid you give the people who buy your stuff something they want to read.

I suppose you're meaning to address writers responding to direct fan requests which is probably in the most part a bad idea. But accusing someone of trying to please the people who like your stuff of pandering is pretty damned elitist. Along with the (paraphrased) "How dare they not just buy whatever I want to write. Just because they're paying me, they think they have a say in what the final product is. Philistines" thing.


DavidS - May 29, 2009 8:08:20 pm PDT #22008 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Isn't that kind of close to "You'll read what I write and like it, peon"?

No. It presumes you're writing to satisfy your own standards without regard to who will read it if anyone.

I suppose you're meaning to address writers responding to direct fan requests which is probably in the most part a bad idea.

No.

But accusing someone of trying to please the people who like your stuff of pandering is pretty damned elitist.

What do you think pandering means anyway?


Connie Neil - May 29, 2009 8:11:11 pm PDT #22009 of 30000
brillig

What do you think pandering means anyway?

Obsequiously currying ideas from a patron and then creating something for the sole pleasure of receiving a reward for that act, without regard for the quality of the product.

It presumes you're writing to satisfy your own standards without regard to who will read it if anyone.

Or who, if anyone, will pay you for it? A noble goal, go forth and write the work of art that lives in your soul.


DavidS - May 29, 2009 8:28:07 pm PDT #22010 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Obsequiously currying ideas from a patron and then creating something for the sole pleasure of receiving a reward for that act, without regard for the quality of the product.

Well, as the (possibly belated for you) link points out it just means: "to provide gratification for others' desires."

And the reason the word has a negative and whoreish connotation is because it's not a good idea.


shrift - May 29, 2009 8:57:32 pm PDT #22011 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Okay, officially don't care if we want to deploy this weekend. Am tired of testing and updating code issues. Will now drink some Drambuie and then sleep for a millionty billion hours, and hope the peripheral edema is better when I wake up.


Theodosia - May 30, 2009 2:20:04 am PDT #22012 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Spare Cat has removed her staple by catching it in the soft fabric edging on her fabric e-collar. That damn cat is just talented, you know?

At least the wound is actually closing up and looking like it's healing well.


sarameg - May 30, 2009 3:08:53 am PDT #22013 of 30000

I don't want to conference call in 20 minutes, damnit.


tommyrot - May 30, 2009 3:49:00 am PDT #22014 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm lying in bed. There is a cat on my back.