Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Apr 06, 2009 6:45:59 pm PDT #14205 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

I went to a new tapas place for (early) dinner.

The one on Market St in Wilmington??? If so, we went there for my dad's b'day in February and dang it was good!


Kat - Apr 06, 2009 6:53:52 pm PDT #14206 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

hey lisah! You should totally come to LA (for Thanksgiving!) so we can go to yoga together!


bon bon - Apr 06, 2009 6:57:15 pm PDT #14207 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The words "kitten farts" are making me laugh like a maniac. Our dog has puppy farts and usually looks suprised or slightly worried by them.

I wish they would be even slightly embarrassed by them. Because the cuteness of the phrase is inversely proportional to the deadliness of the reality.


sarameg - Apr 06, 2009 7:00:08 pm PDT #14208 of 30000

My kitten attacks my ass when I fart in proximity. Which made mac fake farts all weekend once I told him. I explained they needed to be real farts, but I think something was lost in explanation.


sarameg - Apr 06, 2009 7:01:18 pm PDT #14209 of 30000

And my cat's gas? Is obnoxious. And yet Loki doesn't react to that.


Daisy Jane - Apr 06, 2009 7:13:19 pm PDT #14210 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I love that it's 11pm on a Monday night and we're discussing kittens and farts.

My husband thinks I'm nuts now.


Hil R. - Apr 06, 2009 7:19:25 pm PDT #14211 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I should go to sleep. I'm not tired.

Also, random question for an argument I'm trying to make: what examples are there of discrimination against atheists that's specifically against atheists, rather than against non-Christians or non-whatever the majority religion is? The only example I've been able to come up with is that Boy Scouts require a belief in a higher being, but don't care which one. Googling atheist discrimination got me a bunch of cases of atheists who were discriminated against or attacked for being not Christian, but I've having trouble finding cases where it's clear that the issue is atheism itself.


Dana - Apr 06, 2009 7:21:13 pm PDT #14212 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

What about the atheists who fought against having to say "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? I'm fairly sure there was a court case with that, though I think the atheists were suing.


Hil R. - Apr 06, 2009 7:24:21 pm PDT #14213 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

What about the atheists who fought against having to say "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? I'm fairly sure there was a court case with that, though I think the atheists were suing.

Hmm. Could work. Though there are a few religious groups who won't say that, either. IIRC, the court case from a few years ago was dismissed without a ruling, because they said that the father who was suing on behalf of his daughter didn't have custody of her and so he didn't have standing to sue on her behalf. (That case got ugly really fast. I remember reading that the girl's mother said that her daughter had no problem with saying the Pledge.)


Hil R. - Apr 06, 2009 7:27:48 pm PDT #14214 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Oh! Just found a reference to a whole bunch of child custody cases where the judge ruled that living with the religious parent was better for the child than living with the non-religious parent, on the basis of religion.

Which kind of reminds me of a case from a few years ago, where a 12-year-old boy whose Jewish father had sole custody wanted to be officially converted to Judaism so that he could become a bar mitzvah, and his mother objected to the circumcision. I don't remember how that case got resolved, but I do remember feeling really bad for that kid, that there was an entire court case, getting lots of publicity, about his penis.