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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Apr 06, 2009 7:00:08 pm PDT #14208 of 30000

My kitten attacks my ass when I fart in proximity. Which made mac fake farts all weekend once I told him. I explained they needed to be real farts, but I think something was lost in explanation.


sarameg - Apr 06, 2009 7:01:18 pm PDT #14209 of 30000

And my cat's gas? Is obnoxious. And yet Loki doesn't react to that.


Daisy Jane - Apr 06, 2009 7:13:19 pm PDT #14210 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I love that it's 11pm on a Monday night and we're discussing kittens and farts.

My husband thinks I'm nuts now.


Hil R. - Apr 06, 2009 7:19:25 pm PDT #14211 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I should go to sleep. I'm not tired.

Also, random question for an argument I'm trying to make: what examples are there of discrimination against atheists that's specifically against atheists, rather than against non-Christians or non-whatever the majority religion is? The only example I've been able to come up with is that Boy Scouts require a belief in a higher being, but don't care which one. Googling atheist discrimination got me a bunch of cases of atheists who were discriminated against or attacked for being not Christian, but I've having trouble finding cases where it's clear that the issue is atheism itself.


Dana - Apr 06, 2009 7:21:13 pm PDT #14212 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

What about the atheists who fought against having to say "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? I'm fairly sure there was a court case with that, though I think the atheists were suing.


Hil R. - Apr 06, 2009 7:24:21 pm PDT #14213 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

What about the atheists who fought against having to say "one nation under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? I'm fairly sure there was a court case with that, though I think the atheists were suing.

Hmm. Could work. Though there are a few religious groups who won't say that, either. IIRC, the court case from a few years ago was dismissed without a ruling, because they said that the father who was suing on behalf of his daughter didn't have custody of her and so he didn't have standing to sue on her behalf. (That case got ugly really fast. I remember reading that the girl's mother said that her daughter had no problem with saying the Pledge.)


Hil R. - Apr 06, 2009 7:27:48 pm PDT #14214 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Oh! Just found a reference to a whole bunch of child custody cases where the judge ruled that living with the religious parent was better for the child than living with the non-religious parent, on the basis of religion.

Which kind of reminds me of a case from a few years ago, where a 12-year-old boy whose Jewish father had sole custody wanted to be officially converted to Judaism so that he could become a bar mitzvah, and his mother objected to the circumcision. I don't remember how that case got resolved, but I do remember feeling really bad for that kid, that there was an entire court case, getting lots of publicity, about his penis.


Daisy Jane - Apr 06, 2009 8:03:27 pm PDT #14215 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

The ex-president said he didn't really think we were Americans.


Calli - Apr 07, 2009 2:23:43 am PDT #14216 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Aw, I went to bed and we moved on from kitten farts before I got up. Leifur seems to fart only when I'm making him do something he doesn't want to do (come inside, get out of the trash, etc.) As acts of retribution go, it could be worse. Especially now that spring is here and I can open the windows.


Theodosia - Apr 07, 2009 2:49:19 am PDT #14217 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Ours seem far more likely to sneeze, and we've totally failed to teach them to put their paws over their noses.