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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Juliebird - Apr 01, 2009 12:35:14 pm PDT #13403 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Found three dead baby bunnies at work today. Looked like they'd been still-born, or birthed and abandoned to the elements (naturally fallen fruit and nuts were scarce last fall, maybe mummie knew that she couldn't take care of them...) As much as we have a rabbit problem at work (along with groundhogs, chipmunks, and the occasional deer), it's still sad to see. Their ears were still slicked back along their heads and their little fur coats still slicked down. Or maybe a hawk got mom, but why birth them out of the warren?

Boss won't give me a budget to spend on nuts and fruit for the critters to distract them from the pansies and violas that I'm planting out.

But, FLOWERS!!!! Okay, okay, the witch hazel and snow drops and helleborus have been blooming for a month now, as well as a crazy viburnum with fragrant pink flowers. And now the early magnolias and irises and chionodoxa are beginning. There's a few spots of southern slopes where the daffodils are braving the weather, and the lungwort and virginia bluebell and blooming in my favorite colour.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2009 12:36:47 pm PDT #13404 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If a religious fanatic plants a bomb that kills someone and justifies it with his or her faith would that person be allowed to plead insanity.

If they're insane, sure. It just sounded too much like having a religious argument for your actions is incompatible with being bugfuck insane in the eyes of the court. I don't think it should be, and I think it's a really hard line to draw. If aliens told me my child would come back to life I'm crazy, unless it's a space clam, and then I'm just a Scientologist and not crazy at all.


Juliebird - Apr 01, 2009 12:38:29 pm PDT #13405 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

If my extreme faith leads to the same results as someone else's insanity with a similar lack of agreement with conventional right and wrong, though?

Craxy is as craxy does?

More seriously, I was brought up to believe that there were the laws of God, and the laws of Man, and God wanted us to also obey the laws of Man. Therefore, using God as an excuse to flout Man's law would be an affront to God. One's religion/faith may vary.


Gudanov - Apr 01, 2009 12:44:33 pm PDT #13406 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

It just sounded too much like having a religious argument for your actions is incompatible with being bugfuck insane in the eyes of the court.

I don't think they are incompatible, I just think, though it is difficult, that mental competence should be weighed regardless of religion. I'll admit that isn't easy.


Cashmere - Apr 01, 2009 12:52:37 pm PDT #13407 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

I hate to say it but the mental competency of criminal defendants doesn't often make a difference in the court system. They have to be feces-smearing, drooling, raving lunatics (and in that case, if they're docile when medicated they're often shuffled through and imprisoned in regular prisons anyway).

They even have a "guilty but insane" plea that is very effective. The crazy person pleads guilty, goes to prison where they receive next to no mental health care in prison.

I'm not saying let crazy people who commit heinous crimes go free but caging them in regular prisons isn't the answer, either.


tommyrot - Apr 01, 2009 12:55:58 pm PDT #13408 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

BTW, the woman in this case should be free in a year as a result of her plea bargain. It sounds like the prosecutor really needed her testimony against the other cult people involved.


bon bon - Apr 01, 2009 1:13:23 pm PDT #13409 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It just sounded too much like having a religious argument for your actions is incompatible with being bugfuck insane in the eyes of the court.

No, it's just not sufficient-- it doesn't meet the standard for insanity by itself. Having any explanation or no explanation is not* necessarily related to the question of whether a defendant understands the nature and quality of his actions. The courts don't care whether religion mixes in there or not. The real problem with the article is that they've asked for a legal opinion on something not in controversy.

*I left the "not" out when I first posted this.


Kat - Apr 01, 2009 1:22:01 pm PDT #13410 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

In the meantime, we are describing it with the working label of 'FLR' (Fairly Large Rock)."

Poor Pluto.

I mean, a fairly large rock? That's all it gets?

I'm trying not think about the mother and the boy and the no Amen resulting in a child's death because that shit is fucked up.

I kind of think anyone who commits murder is bugfuck (but not legally) insane.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2009 1:24:59 pm PDT #13411 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I kind of think anyone who commits murder is bugfuck (but not legally) insane.

Revenge killing, while wrong, strikes me as too logical to be insane.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2009 1:26:20 pm PDT #13412 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's a Fairly Large Rock. Can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a Rock this Fairly Large.