Well, a gathering is brie, mellow song stylings; shindig, dip, less mellow song stylings, perhaps a large amount of malt beverage, and hootenanny, well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny.

Oz ,'Beneath You'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Apr 01, 2009 12:52:37 pm PDT #13407 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

I hate to say it but the mental competency of criminal defendants doesn't often make a difference in the court system. They have to be feces-smearing, drooling, raving lunatics (and in that case, if they're docile when medicated they're often shuffled through and imprisoned in regular prisons anyway).

They even have a "guilty but insane" plea that is very effective. The crazy person pleads guilty, goes to prison where they receive next to no mental health care in prison.

I'm not saying let crazy people who commit heinous crimes go free but caging them in regular prisons isn't the answer, either.


tommyrot - Apr 01, 2009 12:55:58 pm PDT #13408 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

BTW, the woman in this case should be free in a year as a result of her plea bargain. It sounds like the prosecutor really needed her testimony against the other cult people involved.


bon bon - Apr 01, 2009 1:13:23 pm PDT #13409 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It just sounded too much like having a religious argument for your actions is incompatible with being bugfuck insane in the eyes of the court.

No, it's just not sufficient-- it doesn't meet the standard for insanity by itself. Having any explanation or no explanation is not* necessarily related to the question of whether a defendant understands the nature and quality of his actions. The courts don't care whether religion mixes in there or not. The real problem with the article is that they've asked for a legal opinion on something not in controversy.

*I left the "not" out when I first posted this.


Kat - Apr 01, 2009 1:22:01 pm PDT #13410 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

In the meantime, we are describing it with the working label of 'FLR' (Fairly Large Rock)."

Poor Pluto.

I mean, a fairly large rock? That's all it gets?

I'm trying not think about the mother and the boy and the no Amen resulting in a child's death because that shit is fucked up.

I kind of think anyone who commits murder is bugfuck (but not legally) insane.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2009 1:24:59 pm PDT #13411 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I kind of think anyone who commits murder is bugfuck (but not legally) insane.

Revenge killing, while wrong, strikes me as too logical to be insane.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2009 1:26:20 pm PDT #13412 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's a Fairly Large Rock. Can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a Rock this Fairly Large.


Kat - Apr 01, 2009 1:26:49 pm PDT #13413 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I guess I even think of revenge killing as kinda crazy. What good does it do? Other than temporarily making me feel like I got even, how does it solve the ache of whatever loss I've sustained?


Kat - Apr 01, 2009 1:27:51 pm PDT #13414 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I wonder if Fraggle Rock was also a Fairly Large Rock. Or maybe it was a fairy-ily large-ish rock.

Also, could I have an ice cream flavor called "Fairly Large Rocky Road"?


billytea - Apr 01, 2009 1:37:39 pm PDT #13415 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Revenge killing, while wrong, strikes me as too logical to be insane.

I have the impression that insanity is not generally about a dearth of logic. Those cases with which I'm at all familiar indeed seemed to possess an excess of it.

(Though I also regard revenge killing, while abhorrent and ultimately pointless, as still comprehensible.)


shrift - Apr 01, 2009 1:43:09 pm PDT #13416 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

It has been the kind of day where I'm going to buy vodka on the way home, but I'll need to nap before I can drink any of it.