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'Touched'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Mar 31, 2009 1:45:57 pm PDT #13252 of 30000

Noah is such a busy little man! Grace is all what was that blur?!


Hil R. - Mar 31, 2009 1:57:15 pm PDT #13253 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think I have a new favorite blog comment. The original post: a rant about how the liberals in control of PBS and the socialists in charge of the BBC have ruined Oliver Twist by, among other things, casting a black actress as Nancy. [link] The comment:

I was offended by Fagin's being played as being Jewish. I didn't remember that from the book - neither did my friends. I consider this anti-Semitism rather than anti-Christian. As a member of the Judeo-Christian faith, I was thoroughly offended and tried to make my opinion known to PBS.

I'm not even sure where to start with all the things wrong with that comment.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2009 2:01:22 pm PDT #13254 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In the Little Dorrit over the weekend they cast a black actress as Tattie--she wouldn't have happened to be black in the book, would she?


Hil R. - Mar 31, 2009 2:02:06 pm PDT #13255 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

In the Little Dorrit over the weekend they cast a black actress as Tattie--she wouldn't have happened to be black in the book, would she?

Nope.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2009 2:02:45 pm PDT #13256 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Scandal!


Hil R. - Mar 31, 2009 2:07:35 pm PDT #13257 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Anyone know what the racial demographics were for London in Dickens' time? I'm seeing some people arguing that there's no reason that Nancy couldn't be black, and I'm wondering about the stats.


msbelle - Mar 31, 2009 2:11:27 pm PDT #13258 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Mac is testing for his orange belt right now. Wtf parents who are talking AND taking calls during the test.


beth b - Mar 31, 2009 2:19:41 pm PDT #13259 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

A neighbor that was a landlady and second mom to a very good friend passed away today. Mary was 84, and a woman who tried to live an life as close to her ideals as possible.

I don't need any hugs, but a warm thoughts to her friends and family would be good.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2009 2:23:01 pm PDT #13260 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kick their asses, msbelle. Krav them in their ears.

Hil--I think black people were well enough represented at the time for it to be unremarkable. Not what Dickens meant, but unremarkable. It's not like they're casting black people in enviable or powerful positions.

As for the Fagin/Jewish problem, I have no words. I can see many works of Twist leaving it out, because it seems a bit uncomfortable to deal with (uh, I haven't read the book myself--just going by a few portrayals I've seen), but if you have read the book there's no excuse but your blindness.


Hil R. - Mar 31, 2009 2:25:51 pm PDT #13261 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The book constantly refers to him as "the Jew" and "the old Jew." Like, when any other character would be "the man stood up" or "the boy stood up," Fagin gets "the Jew stood up." There is no way it's possible to read that book and not realize that Fagin is Jewish.