Buffy: Dancing with you is way better than trying to hook up with some good-looking guy. Xander: I think I liked it more when you were kicking me in my puffy groin.

'Get It Done'


Buffista Music 4: Needs More Cowbell!

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 7:01:48 am PDT #2782 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In the same (jugular?) vein - Bongwater - novelty band?

Heh. See my edit. Sometimes.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 26, 2010 7:05:07 am PDT #2783 of 6436
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Heh. See my edit. Sometimes.

Heh indeed. Though I think both might argue "performance art" vs. "novelty".

Which brings us (or me at least) to the question of Laurie Anderson. I'd definitely say not a novelty act, though some of her songs are funny enough to qualify.


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 7:07:37 am PDT #2784 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Part of the problem is this:

I say, "No, it's too awesome to be a novelty song!"

Novelty songs can be awesome! Famously, a lot of novelty bands featured top notch musicianship. Notably Spike Jones band. And the Bonzo Dog Band isn't only a novelty band, though songs like "The Intro and the Outro" work perfectly well as novelty. I mean Monty Python Sings is an album full of novelty songs but they're brilliant and hilarious and have that dark, Python undertow.


P.M. Marc - Mar 26, 2010 7:09:10 am PDT #2785 of 6436
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

"Dick in a Box" is another recent classic novelty song, and video. It's not a song parody, but it does parody boy band video conventions.

No, not really with the boy band video conventions, but it does parody the immediate pre-grunge era top 40 music video style effectively.


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 7:10:12 am PDT #2786 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'd definitely say not a novelty act, though some of her songs are funny enough to qualify.

Right. "O Superman" is a serious song, but it was a hit as a novelty. Dry irony can be mistaken.

Oftentimes the novelty of the song is that it's an unfamiliar genre. The first rap hit, "Double Dutch" was sold as a novelty. "Stars on 45" were also considered novelty songs. Cut-ins were novelties.


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 7:13:42 am PDT #2787 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but it does parody the immediate pre-grunge era top 40 music video style effectively.

Yeah, I guess boy bands didn't really sport that beard that Justin was wearing in the video.


Fred Pete - Mar 26, 2010 7:19:21 am PDT #2788 of 6436
Ann, that's a ferret.

So it sounds like a humorous video for a non-novelty song can also create a novelty. Maybe the classic example is David Lee Roth's medley of "Just a Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody." Where the song itself is sung pretty straight-forwardly, but the video parodies everyone from Willie Nelson to Boy George.

But where does that leave something like "Centerfold"?


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 7:23:40 am PDT #2789 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Maybe the classic example is David Lee Roth's medley of "Just a Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody."

That is a good example. But a lot of videos are novelties or have parodic elements even when the song isn't. There are like five or six videos I can think of offhand that played off the Robert Palmer Zombie Girl Supermodel look.

But where does that leave something like "Centerfold"?

As with most genre taxonomies it's rarely an either/or question but a matter of spectrum and degree.

I wouldn't call that song a novelty, though the J. Geils Band did do some novelty songs, my favorite being "No Anchovies Please."


tommyrot - Mar 26, 2010 7:37:26 am PDT #2790 of 6436
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So what does a band have to do to be pegged with the "Novelty band" label? Just one novelty song? One popular novelty song? Or does having a large existing oeuvre of "serious" songs before releasing a novelty song protect a band from the "novelty band" label?

Was David Bowie considered a novelty act (due to "Laughing Gnome") before Space Oddity or The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars came out?


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 7:38:25 am PDT #2791 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Was David Bowie considered a novelty act (due to "Laughing Gnome") before Space Oddity or The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars came out?

No, he was considered a failed mod, Anthony Newley copycat and a twee-as-fuck folkie.