Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Buffista Music 4: Needs More Cowbell!

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


Atropa - Mar 25, 2010 9:54:06 am PDT #2772 of 6436
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

When I think about MCR, I think of Bob. And then I am sad.

sobs

I know! But I still want the new album and a tour RIGHT NOW.


Amy - Mar 25, 2010 9:58:18 am PDT #2773 of 6436
Because books.

I'm a little concerned because they seemed so happy with the direction of the new album, and then Bob left, and now they're apparently recording even more new songs.

The number of times this album has changed tone or sound worries me a little. It also worries me because I love The Black Parade so very, very much. I know this one isn't going to sound like that one, but I want it to be just as cohesive, you know? I just want to ... like it.


Trudy Booth - Mar 25, 2010 10:56:30 am PDT #2774 of 6436
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I suspect those boys, particularly Mr. Toro, record until someone makes them stop.


Cass - Mar 25, 2010 10:59:57 am PDT #2775 of 6436
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

But I still want the new album and a tour RIGHT NOW.

So do I.

I think this album will be very different from TBP, but all of their albums have been cohesive for me. TBP wasn't my absolute favorite, though I quite liked it, so I am looking forward to seeing where they go next.

I just want them to get there and not keep scrapping albums. That bit worries me. Especially with a changing lineup.


tommyrot - Mar 26, 2010 5:37:11 am PDT #2776 of 6436
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Maybe Hec has an opinion on this: What makes a song a novelty song?

Currently I'm listening to "Don't Touch My Bikini" by the Halo Benders? Is this a novelty song? I say, "No, it's too awesome to be a novelty song!"

Comments?


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 6:38:04 am PDT #2777 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Maybe Hec has an opinion on this: What makes a song a novelty song?

Currently I'm listening to "Don't Touch My Bikini" by the Halo Benders? Is this a novelty song? I say, "No, it's too awesome to be a novelty song!"

Interesting question, and one I've pondered since I personally love songs that are funny, but bands that betray too much humor or wackiness are frequently undervalued.

The obvious example being TMBG who (despite their many hardcore partisans) can be dismissed as a "joke band." (They're not, of course.)

Novelty Songs go back to Vaudeville and Music Hall (and much further really, but out of that tradition) and represented a particular type of performer. There were Novelty Dance acts too. The comedy is always foregrounded in such songs and there was also an association with the performer playing a kind of comic type.

The classic contemporary example would be Weird Al who plays a specific comic type (nerd) and writes (mostly) parodies of contemporary hits. He's good at it, cleverly rewriting the lyrics and cheerfully spoofing the essence of the song as well. Or he does effective cross-pollinations like his Yoda/Lola song. Or he writes straight up comedy songs ("White and Nerdy").

OK Go don't write comedy songs, but their videos are very much like a Novelty Dance act. Most especially the treadmill video for "Here We Go Again." Which (unfortunately) means that some people are going to not take them seriously as pop musicians.

"Dick in a Box" is another recent classic novelty song, and video. It's not a song parody, but it does parody boy band video conventions.

So anything that's a parody is automatically a novelty song. That's a constant.

Anything that's a joke about something contemporary and passing in the media is a novelty.

The way Adam Sandler updates the Hannukah Song live to include contemporary references is a classic novelty/comic strategy.

"Do You Wanna Date My Avatar" (both song and video) is a Novelty.

So it isn't just being funny or comic in song. It's foregrounding the humor, often parody, often commenting on a specific cultural event or trend or person that's hot in the media.

Another classic novelty signifier would be the naughty, coded lyrics. That goes way back to those old double entendre Music Hall songs, folk songs and rude R&B ("Big Long Sliding Thing" being about a trombone player), and the Dr. Demento staple "Telephone Man" (the last novelty song to sell a million singles) is a good example. Also, Chuck Berry's last #1 song was a novelty - "My Dingaling."

So generally it's not comedy as sophisticated wit, but usually lower forms of humor. Things that would ping a 10 year old. So here you also get gross-out songs ("Fish Heads") and absurd songs/bits ("Bulbous Bouffant") and fake protest songs ("Carrot Juice is Murder" by the Arrogant Worms).

So, Arrogant Worms are a novelty band, but Bare Naked Ladies is not.

Personally I'd rather listen to the Hoosier Hot Shots doing "From the Indies to the Andes In His Undies" than some angsty emo-boy's complaint rock.


tommyrot - Mar 26, 2010 6:58:14 am PDT #2778 of 6436
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Interesting.

So: King Missile - novelty band?


DavidS - Mar 26, 2010 7:00:57 am PDT #2779 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So: King Missile - novelty band?

"Detachable Penis" is definitely a novelty song in my book.

Bongwater also veer heavily into novelty territory.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 26, 2010 7:01:08 am PDT #2780 of 6436
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

In the same (jugular?) vein - Bongwater - novelty band?


Dana - Mar 26, 2010 7:01:11 am PDT #2781 of 6436
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And it makes a great vid.