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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - May 14, 2010 9:39:34 am PDT #9019 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They were destined to be Lucifer and Michael's vessels and act out the battle that would wipe out most of the earth's population.

That didn't happen. Dean plainly didn't say yes, and even more importantly, Sam said yes and flipped Lucifer the bird, because the power of love did win the day.

It wasn't destined for the earth to come out of it mostly unscathed. But it did, because Sam was that strong, and because Dean wouldn't let him be.

It absolutely mattered what they did, and who they were. Look at poor Adam! I hope that whatever force (God, probably) got Castiel and Sam out of their jam put him back in heaven and maybe he finds his mother. But he didn't have what Sam and Dean had, and he wasn't able to stand up to the powerful forces arrayed against humanity.

I think the Lisa thing is wrong, but I totally get why both of them think it's right, so I don't mind Sam extracting the promise and Dean following through. I will be disappointed if Show thinks it's right, though.

eta:

And Sam's in hell and Dean's in hell, and really, what the hell?

Sam's in Hell? Who do you think is under the streetlight, then? I thought JP did a good job of differentiating between Lucifer and Sam, and I thought I saw Sam. A different Sam, but Sam there.

Dean's seeking an end to his misery, and in the wrong place. Time enough to get that resolved. It didn't need a bow on it at the end of S5. I wouldn't have expected it--it doesn't jibe with the season enders that have preceded it.


Beverly - May 14, 2010 9:45:43 am PDT #9020 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Yes, they were heroes, I don't deny that. Yes, they made choices within the destiny they were given.


ehab - May 14, 2010 9:50:21 am PDT #9021 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

What ita said.

I absolutely saw destiny subverted. I'm okay narratively with where they left it particularly with another season coming, but regarding Dean and Lisa

I will be disappointed if Show thinks it's right, though.

This. And knowing our writers I think it's gonna go pear-shaped somehow or other, Lisa and Dean that is, not narratively.


le nubian - May 14, 2010 9:51:42 am PDT #9022 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

though sadly she didn't vanish

you don't ever lie.


Lee - May 14, 2010 9:52:04 am PDT #9023 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

That didn't happen. Dean plainly didn't say yes, and even more importantly, Sam said yes and flipped Lucifer the bird, because the power of love did win the day

YELLOW CRAYON!


§ ita § - May 14, 2010 9:55:06 am PDT #9024 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they made choices within the destiny they were given.

How does Dean saying no fit within the destiny they were given?

Sam subverted an angel. I thought him resisting Famine's ultimate temptation was big, but this? If I weren't so in love with Dean, I'd be the biggest Sam!Girl ever.

YELLOW CRAYON!

THE IMPALA OF BROTHERLY LOVE!


sumi - May 14, 2010 9:59:56 am PDT #9025 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Hee.


Beverly - May 14, 2010 10:00:33 am PDT #9026 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

How does Dean saying no fit within the destiny they were given?

Sam subverted an angel.

True. And a mighty effort it was. Their destiny was to save the world, at whatever cost, and they did that.


Laga - May 14, 2010 10:01:51 am PDT #9027 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I know irl streetlights burn out all the time but in fiction it only happens for a reason.


sumi - May 14, 2010 10:02:22 am PDT #9028 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Was that their destiny? I mean - that is what they chose - but I thought that the fate that they were fighting involved them ending the world.