Lucifer has not stated that Sam would be ruined. He has rather pointedly avoided saying anything about the condition of Sam's personality, identity, or soul, post-claiming.

He did encourage Sam in Abandon All Hope to "Keep fanning that fire in your belly. All that pent-up rage... I'm gonna need it." If Samifer does happen, I wonder how much Sam will be left when Luci's done and if God intervenes again for old time's sake.

Joshua said the boys have been to heaven before, that God had granted them salvation, even after all Sam had done. Maybe season 6 will the the search for Sam's soul... No knowledge, just a random thought.

Oh and the latest CW teaser clip spoils for who breaks Dean's face. I won't link to it.

Dean, my beautiful, beautiful face. They haven't done swelling before and that is making a huge difference. That is what they all three should have looked like in the Impala crash, but damn, seeing it now...it's stomach turning.

Oh and the latest CW teaser clip spoils for who breaks Dean's face. I won't link to it.

They show Sam hitting him in the trailer after last week's ep, but now you make me want to track down the teaser and see...

Nah, not yet.

They did have Sam's face swollen in Salvation, but not as much as they show Dean's in the preview.

Danneel did say that green makes Jensen's eyes pop (in case you ever want to take your picture with him), but it's hard for them to look good through the swelling.

On a serious note, Jensen uses his face and eyes so much in his acting, I wonder if he found acting through the make up a challenge.

I'm rewatching MBV (yeah, I need excuses) and Castiel doesn't just say it's his vessel that's causing his hunger, he says it's Jimmy's appetite for red meat.

So...still unclear.

What does it say about me that it was the logicistics of that "Welcome to Oz" fic that had me throwing my hands up and abandoning it early on, yet I had no trouble whatsoever with the SPN characters transplanted into the plot of My Stepmother Is an Alien ?

What were the problematic logistics of the Oz fic?

Mask of Sanity. Another Criminal Minds crossover. Haven't read more than the first chapter, so no opinion to offer other than I think it's going to be OC heavy--I think I've read other stuff by this author with the same OC family, confusingly enough with someone named Jo in it. I don't know if I like them much.

Also, I think it's a WIP.

What were the problematic logistics of the Oz fic?

Physical setup of the town and how it was organized and supplied. I think I can handle nonsensical stuff a lot better if the author plays it for comedy.

All I can say on that front is that it all gets explained by the end.