You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Calli - May 01, 2010 1:24:56 pm PDT #8252 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

CWfT is terrific! Thanks for linking, ita.


Cass - May 01, 2010 1:37:32 pm PDT #8253 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

But if something is claimed as canon, I want it to be legitimately canon. Man that fills me with self-righteous indignation. I don't care if you fool around with your brother, but by God don't fool around with the laws of canon.

I might not agree with it (and, actually, I don't because I know exactly the journal entry and I was a little agog at it) but I will totally defend people's right to see canon however they choose in their own journals.

If you're looking for Wincest and have been seeing it in the show for a while, this season adds a lot. In a wink and a nudge way, but if that is an integral part of the show for you...


§ ita § - May 01, 2010 1:39:41 pm PDT #8254 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It could have been that Crowley was shocked by Sam's farting. I think that's only a Jared thing on the blooper reel, but still.

Dean calls Sam gassy in Yellow Fever, so that at least is something for Crowley to have heard.

Anyway, Dean/Castiel is totally going to be canon before Wincest. I mean, come on. It's SO obvious.

Thanks for linking, ita.

I am obviously the nice one.

I'm in the middle of Dean/Castiel written by someone obsessed with the idea of Castiel's vessel, which is interesting, except it was before the Jimmy Novak reveal, so it's all Jossed and confusing. Also, she keeps getting actual canon wrong. And yet I read. Why can't I make a break of it and maybe stumble onto another gem?

eta:

I will totally defend people's right to see canon however they choose in their own journals.

See, me, I believe in a one true canon. No one actually said they slept together, so it's nothing but wish fulfillment to pretend otherwise--cop to that. It's not even a strong implication.


Lee - May 01, 2010 1:44:50 pm PDT #8255 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I am obviously the nice one.

You know that doesn't work even here, where msbelle is not, don't you?


Theresa - May 01, 2010 1:51:58 pm PDT #8256 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

See, me, I believe in a one true canon. No one actually said they slept together, so it's nothing but wish fulfillment to pretend otherwise--cop to that. It's not even a strong implication.

This.

Now the "erotically co-dependent" I view as canon and people can then interpret the narrator or whatever about it, but it doesn't change it from being said.


Cass - May 01, 2010 2:10:31 pm PDT #8257 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

See, me, I believe in a one true canon.

Well I believe in the canon how *I* see it and sometimes, in this show, it is less than explicit. So I really just defend people's rights to see things inaccurately in their own journals. But I only get to tell them they are craxy and wrong if they say it in a more public venue. It's the John Winchester effect, for me.

I am still putting a "rec" list together.


§ ita § - May 01, 2010 2:15:35 pm PDT #8258 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I figure things can waver when it comes to unreliability of narrators, etc (I believe Sam when he says John drank a lot, for instance, but not Zach about the erotic co-dependence). Just that when you do all the work in filling in the meaning like that, you don't get to call it canon without me looking at you funny, even if it's in your journal. I choose to interpret a lot of stuff (like, say, John may have hit the kids) but I'm not going to call them canon in any forum, even if I can point clearly to where I inferred it from.

I am still putting a "rec" list together.

Any starter kit should have, say, 5 vids on it too. And a question I see on IO9 a lot is "How much of S1 should I watch if I don't want to watch the whole thing?" So that should be covered.

Me? Demanding? Jamais!


Cass - May 01, 2010 2:27:50 pm PDT #8259 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Any starter kit should have, say, 5 vids on it too.

I feel certain I've rec'd more than five vids already. Haven't I?

And it's already more than a starter kit but culling further would involve rereading all of the stories and putting them in more of an order. So it's Things Cass Liked list. With links and a caution to read any warnings.


Theresa - May 01, 2010 2:30:44 pm PDT #8260 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Well I believe in the canon how *I* see it and sometimes, in this show, it is less than explicit. So I really just defend people's rights to see things inaccurately in their own journals.

But isn't that just fanon? I'll totally defend anyone's right to fanon anything they want. But canon has to be explicit on the show, right? Otherwise I could make up anything I wanted and call it canon. Bobby had papers all over his desk, therefore his sister was a librarian. Canon.

eta:

And a question I see on IO9 a lot is "How much of S1 should I watch if I don't want to watch the whole thing?" So that should be covered.
And while I am being all judgey mcjudgeypants, I think this question should be met with suggestions of episodes to watch and then a stern warning that this show is a journey and skipping episodes is skipping part of the journey.

See I told you self-righteous indignation.


§ ita § - May 01, 2010 2:36:35 pm PDT #8261 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I feel certain I've rec'd more than five vids already. Haven't I?

Oh, yes.

But now I'm just thinking of a welcome kit to SPN fandom all together in one place. And, uh, in my head I nominated you.

Makes total sense from where I'm sitting.

I could never do it. My list of fic is random and makes no sense whatsoever and I have no idea what's enshrined SPN fanwork.

Hmm. Thinking of things ita likes, I really should be bookmarking the fanart I like. Most of it leaves me cold, but I do like the crack. The chibi stuff gets me every time. There's one of Dean, Sam, and Castiel taking a bubble bath that's just ridiculously cute, and I need to find it again.