We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Morgana - Apr 22, 2010 10:15:07 am PDT #7798 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

It's nowhere outright stated that he gets the parental role Dean played, is it?

I can't find a transcript, but I always accepted the gifting of the amulet as that moment. I'm going strictly from memory here, which is always a risky thing, but youngSam was wrapping the amulet saying Uncle Bobby had given it to him specifically to be given to his father because it was special. After John had disappointed him (again) by not showing up, and Dean had done his best to make Christmas happen, Sam gave the amulet, which was to be given to his father, to him. He pretty obviously turned all his loyalties and trust to Dean at that point.

Other than that, I can understand why people would view young Sam who wanted the yummy cereal as oblivious, but grown up Sam isn't stupid. If we know John wasn't around and Dean was he certainly does.


sumi - Apr 22, 2010 10:31:22 am PDT #7799 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

2nd Sneak Peek


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2010 10:35:20 am PDT #7800 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's a huge leap for an 8 year old to make. I can see him at that age making (and it's what I'd assumed) the leap of "You're here for me, he's not. I'm important to you."

I think Sam pretty clearly sees where John failed them (and perhaps exaggerates, depending on who you ask), but the eureka moment of the flip side of that--all of what Dean did to try and fill the gap (and I think it was a pretty good job, until Sam's unrest meant he had to leave), I still don't think I've seen onscreen.

From Dark Side of the Moon, I'm wondering how deep the line "I just never realized how long you've been cleaning up Dad's messes." goes.

I just think that he's more keyed into how abnormal their upbringing was, as opposed to how much Dean did to try and right that imbalance--even as Dean thought hunting was his only choice, and hoped Sam would want to do it too.

A lot of eye-opening happened recently. So he may very well have realised. I just want to hear it. I want to see the looks on their faces during the exchange. I will send flowers. Flowers for everyone.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2010 10:39:12 am PDT #7801 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That sneak peek is terribly tantalisingly short. But angst free, mostly, so that's cool.


Amy - Apr 22, 2010 10:51:23 am PDT #7802 of 30002
Because books.

None of what ita said, but I did get hit with a strong whiff of the meeting of the Black Thorn or whatever it was on Angel, near the end .

I love their faces, man. SHOW.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2010 10:58:17 am PDT #7803 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Man, I need to do an Angel rewatch. I totally didn't catch that, and I think you're very right.

I'm sure it all portends doom and gloom, just that, compared to some of what we've seen so far? Unicorn lollipops.

Sorry. Crackfic residue.

SHOW NIGHT.


Amy - Apr 22, 2010 11:28:58 am PDT #7804 of 30002
Because books.

I suddenly flashed on a fic where I think Sam was literally shooting rainbows out his ass. Um.

I can't remember if I said it here, but for those interested JDM is on the Craig Ferguson show tonight, 12:30 a.m. CBS.


Theresa - Apr 22, 2010 12:00:04 pm PDT #7805 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Thanks Amy! Woot!

And the spoiler font has me very worried. Because I hated that. Fudge, now I'm in a bad mood.

::thinks about JDM on Craig Ferguson and feels better::

Maybe he will giggle.

Show tonight!!


Theresa - Apr 22, 2010 2:16:47 pm PDT #7806 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Well, the good news is that my parents arrived. The better news is that I have a recorder so I don't have to be completely socially inept and order everyone's silence during SHOW. Still, if I post, it will probably be sneaking it from my phone.

Oh and tornadoes are also in the area.

Lucifer may be trying to keep me from Show, but I'm going to put up a good fight.

DVRs FTW!


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2010 2:21:48 pm PDT #7807 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My father visited me when I was unemployed and pretty much all I did was watch Criminal Minds and other gory procedurals. I know he was appalled, but he kept mum.

I absolutely cannot imagine what reaction he'd have if he had been forced to watch SPN over my shoulder. Much less see me react and IM.

I've been so fannish around my father that he's given me feedback on Mary Sue fanfic, but there are things he doesn't need to be witness to.