One more thing. I have to give Carver credit where credit's due. Dean's escape from the panic room was really clever!
The Bay City Rollers, now that's music.
Giles ,'Sleeper'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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ehab - Apr 16, 2010 5:59:08 am PDT #7496 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala
§ ita § - Apr 16, 2010 7:02:11 am PDT #7497 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
ehab, I totally wasn't jarred out of the moment like you mention. I suspect another rewatch is in my near future, so I'll have a look.
I just read the AV Club recap, and I'm kinda surprised--the writer is annoyed by the long gaze that Sam and Dean share before Dean changes his mind.
He thinks it's too 'cesty. Are there really a lot of people who don't like Wincest that see it in the text too much? Dude, it was two people who care the world about each other staring at each other. Did he miss the actual eyesex from earlier in the episode with Castiel?
Toddson - Apr 16, 2010 8:16:06 am PDT #7498 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
One serious problem with this episode - the camera should have LINGERED over the sign on Castiel's chest.
Polter-Cow - Apr 16, 2010 8:18:08 am PDT #7499 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
That was a pretty badass move, and I like that they reminded us about the sigil earlier in the episode to make sure that we got how awesome that was.
Of course, does this mean that any time Castiel touches his chest now, he will banish himself?
§ ita § - Apr 16, 2010 8:20:09 am PDT #7500 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
any time Castiel touches his chest now, he will banish himself?
If he's bleeding, maybe. But normally he can banish without disappearing himself. So this is new juju.
I've seen speculation that he's dead and Adam's not. I'm kinda hoping the converse.
Amy - Apr 16, 2010 8:26:30 am PDT #7501 of 30002
Because books.
NEITHER OF THEM ARE DEAD.
Ahem.
ehab - Apr 16, 2010 8:29:36 am PDT #7502 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala
I'm not sure how the show can make Jake coming back work, except maybe as Michael's temp vessel. I can see how that might drive Dean to change his mind and say yes.
§ ita § - Apr 16, 2010 8:31:58 am PDT #7503 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Castiel's totally not dead. I have no investment in Adam, but Castiel goes nowhere this early in the season. Dammit, not after his brilliance in the episode.
I need to say again, I loved Sam this week. He was just so grown up and sensible.
Laga - Apr 16, 2010 8:32:07 am PDT #7504 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I'm not a fan of Wincest and I didn't see it in the context of the show last night. On the other hand Dean/Castiel was pretty loud.
Amy - Apr 16, 2010 8:34:09 am PDT #7505 of 30002
Because books.
I'm not really invested in Adam as a character, but I do love the possibilities he represents in terms of how Dean and Sam could save the world.
I still want to see if Jessie (superkid! antichrist!) plays into this, because that was a serious smoking gun.