God, it's really painful. They made John hella complicated. Well, they made them all complicated.
Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...
'War Stories'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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§ ita § - Apr 07, 2010 5:20:10 am PDT #6895 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Amy - Apr 07, 2010 5:22:08 am PDT #6896 of 30002
Because books.
Poor Dean. Destined above all to lose at rock, paper, scissors.
§ ita § - Apr 07, 2010 5:24:25 am PDT #6897 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If Kripke or Sera has him throw paper before the series is over, I'll send flowers.
Amy - Apr 07, 2010 5:29:32 am PDT #6898 of 30002
Because books.
I want to write one of Dean's trips to heaven that got wiped, and let him find John. Or retcon his time in hell and have him meet John there. Anything so they could have it out.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 07, 2010 5:43:38 am PDT #6899 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Hasn't it been pretty well established that John got out of hell for good back in the season 2 finale?
Amy - Apr 07, 2010 6:00:43 am PDT #6900 of 30002
Because books.
Oh. Right. Damn it, Matt!
Man, the last scene of Jump the Shark is just killer. "You can take it any way you want." That hurts.
§ ita § - Apr 07, 2010 7:04:22 am PDT #6901 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That's another thing I've seen people debating. But I was always assuming that he got out and didn't go back. After all, he was a righteous man, and he had that lightshow and everything.
Amy - Apr 07, 2010 7:07:11 am PDT #6902 of 30002
Because books.
I think at the time I wanted to think he got sucked up into heaven because of the lightshow and all. And because he broke out of hell to save his boys. But I'm not sure there's any actual canon, unless Kripke or someone says so.
§ ita § - Apr 07, 2010 7:10:28 am PDT #6903 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Would Alistair have needed Dean in Hell and had the whole "I tortured your dad for 100 years and he never gave in" conversation with him if he still had John on the rack, though?
I know--demons lie--but it really sounded like he didn't have him anymore.
Amy - Apr 07, 2010 7:14:09 am PDT #6904 of 30002
Because books.
That's true. I wonder if the timing works. In terms of earth time equalling hell time.