T-1.

Apparently rerun of Show beat the rerun of Vampire Diaries last week, for the first time SPN's beat VD. But not, you know, VD.

Kavan Smith! I totally forgot you made an appearance.

That's good news!

Wow, Johnnie Walker Blue is expensive stuff.

I liked Rufus so much.

Rufus is still alive, right? He made it out of Good God Y'all?

He's a great drunk.

I think he did, yeah.

Oh dear. I forgot about the maggots.

Rafael, Tamara, Rufus--living black people of note, if memory serves.

While I'm thinking of SPN black folk, I wonder about Uriel's host in 1978. Does he have a type, or did he choose the same vessel he took this time round?

Don't forget Missouri.

I guess when you have to ask consent to inhabit a vessel, it's easier to stick with the same person who already offered/said yes? So I'm thinking it's the same guy.

I wonder if there was fic with Dean and Bela meeting in hell, of any kind. Could have made for some interesting conversations.

Matt, can I tag that? It has such nice flow.

Sure, be my guest.

Kavan Smith! I totally forgot you made an appearance.

Prettiest monster chow, ever.

Don't forget Missouri.

Must not forget her!

I'm thinking it's the same guy.

That's less creepy than the type thing, though Uriel and creepy...

Prettiest monster chow, ever.

Most wasted pretty monster chow, for sure. Too brief an appearance.

I know that SPN gets a lot of guff for racial issues, but I have to say I don't totally get it. I think they cast some excellent black actors (Cassie totally excepted, damnit, and she was the only role that had to had to be black, right?), and I understand from Colin that the Vancouver black talent pool isn't that deep, which means you're paying extra to fly someone in pretty much any time you see a black actor show up.

So, black characters try and kill the boys. So black characters die. It's kind of a trademark of the show that characters of all colours do that, and the show's definitely been richer for having had Charles Malik Whitfield and Sterling K. Brown on it. And Sterling acted himself back onto the show, past what was originally written.

Now, why they haven't bumped into any Native Americans or Asians, that's a whole different matter. But I don't get the black objection.

It seems like a double-edged sword to me. In LDC yesterday, an Indian guy was a victim. Which ... maybe not the best idea, but otherwise, in a story where he's only ever going to be a one-off character, he's the villain. So which is better?

And when they're casting for roles that are supposed to take place in these really small towns in the heart of the country, it's probably statistically correct that most of the characters are white. We lived in a town in Wyoming for a year, and of the 2,500 citizens maybe a dozen, literally, were black. There were far more Hispanic migrant farm laborers.

I can see how casting an Indian male as an employee of the telephone company was a little distastefully stereotypical, though.

Maggie was Asian! In Ghostfacers.

I can see how casting an Indian male as an employee of the telephone company was a little distastefully stereotypical, though.

You know, given he was actually in the US, it didn't even ping me.

Maggie was Asian! In Ghostfacers.

I admit I wish they hadn't mentioned she was adopted. Because? Hello? Der.

It's true that they're not exactly hanging out in LA or NYC. When I was living in Detroit it was a whole different minority profile.

But given the whole angle of their monster-hunting, it would be interesting to somehow spend some time with other cultures. Except the tendency there is to make them the bad guys, since they're in the monster-hunting business, not the magic-blessing giving business.

It seems like a double-edged sword to me

That's precisely it. You're most likely to be victim or villain, and they'd get crap for casting minorities in either place. So cast white only, instead of open ethnicity?

Basically either Bobby or Castiel would need to be black, I'm guessing, to "fix" things. And given that I think at least one of them won't live to see the next season (also Bobby's crippling would probably have been a thing), how would that have gone over?

I hate the idea that black people can't be evil and black people can't die--on a show full of evil dying people.