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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Mar 07, 2010 7:30:09 pm PST #5801 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Aaargh! TWOP people agreeing that Dean shouldn't have made the deal to raise Sam in AHBL2. ::closes window::

Way to miss the point of show.


Amy - Mar 07, 2010 7:34:10 pm PST #5802 of 30002
Because books.

Exactly, ita. How do you watch this show and not get that it's about both of them, about their relationship together, how they sacrifice for their brother?

Boggles.


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2010 7:38:08 pm PST #5803 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Even when it's not working, it's about it not working. I don't get not getting it.

I mean, I could skim past the people saying that Castiel was Dean's one true friend, but even that was getting tricky. Keeping Sam dead means that it's just not Supernatural.

There's no version of Dean that would have made that decision, not even End!Dean, I'd wager.


Amy - Mar 07, 2010 7:41:35 pm PST #5804 of 30002
Because books.

Nope. That's, like, the central thesis of his character: "I take care of my little brother." Full stop.

Man, I need hiatus to be over.


Morgana - Mar 07, 2010 7:46:08 pm PST #5805 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I could skim past the people saying that Castiel was Dean's one true friend, but even that was getting tricky.

Not to mention that Castiel wasn't around during AHBL II, and as we've seen (during Croatoan, and during AHBL itself) Dean is prepared to kill himself rather than go on living without Sam. They just don't work without each other. As we keep repeating in various ways on this thread, that IS the point of this show. And it's why we love them, in all their fucked up, codependent glory.


§ ita § - Mar 07, 2010 7:54:36 pm PST #5806 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Epic Love Story Of Sam And Dean.

You might not like it, but it is what you signed up for, so don't pretend it's not happening.

Not some "brotherly bond that never was and never shall be" crap. It's there. It's the light that's casting all the shadows.


Amy - Mar 08, 2010 1:58:25 pm PST #5807 of 30002
Because books.

I've never rewatched anything all the way through, episode by episode, and I am the type to let excitement over a new season override any issues with an episode.

Which is a long-winded way of saying that after the delicious meat of S2, The Magnificent Seven was a little like a vending machine snack. Sort of forced, in terms of Dean's jollity. The note that really rang wrong for me this time around was the "cough cough year to live" thing in the thrift shop with Sam.


§ ita § - Mar 08, 2010 2:06:22 pm PST #5808 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think they kind of covered it with his explanation at the end and Sam's continued trauma with the whole thing, but I think the transition was awkward (no Dean voice there). I would have expected more haunted looks on Dean's part. He was very puppy-doggish.

On the other hand, the Drano drinking scene! I forgot this was here. Right up there on my top five most disgusting things this show has ever done.

God, hunters must really get a rage-on at hearing the name Winchester, huh? Even though they didn't open the Hell's gate themselves, they're totally up front and centre with all the bad shit.

And then there are the seals.


Beverly - Mar 08, 2010 4:39:55 pm PST #5809 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I hated M7 with the intensity of burning magnesium. It was only surpassed by my hatred of MM. Those were not my Winchesters.


§ ita § - Mar 08, 2010 4:50:34 pm PST #5810 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's MM? Malleus Maleficarum? I don't have a clear memory of that one.

I think Sam was okay in this one. Dean was mostly a pod person, though. For hated episodes, Route 666 is always highest on my list. Others come to mind later.