Though I have to admit I don't get how pushing Dean to kill Sam or Not!Sam killing Dean fits in with the ultimate plan, since Lucifer wouldn't have had a vessel in the first case and Dean wouldn't have gone to hell in the second (or at least hadn't had a chance to make a deal yet)
No. And yes. It's always sudden.
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Lee - Feb 23, 2010 7:00:46 pm PST #5506 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Amy - Feb 23, 2010 7:03:35 pm PST #5507 of 30002
Because books.
Though I have to admit I don't get how pushing Dean to kill Sam or Not!Sam killing Dean fits in with the ultimate plan
I've been handwaving all that stuff as tests. Like the Croatoan virus was, in the end.
Or just pure torture, if you like screwing with Dean and you're pretty sure he's never going to be able to pull the trigger.
P.M. Marc - Feb 23, 2010 7:14:17 pm PST #5508 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I believe Meg when Meg says to screw the master plan. I think Meg's in it for the pain.
Lee - Feb 23, 2010 7:16:33 pm PST #5509 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Yeah--she hadn't said that this time when I posted, and I forgot it from the first time. I believe her too.
P.M. Marc - Feb 23, 2010 7:26:33 pm PST #5510 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
It, uh. May be one of those exchanges that sticks in my head. Maybe a little bit.
Theresa - Feb 23, 2010 7:34:05 pm PST #5511 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
I believe Meg when Meg says to screw the master plan. I think Meg's in it for the pain.
So very much This.
Polter-Cow - Feb 24, 2010 2:44:00 pm PST #5512 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Huh. I'm watching the Fringe special features, and in describing a scene in which Olivia has to stab a bad guy, Kirk Acevedo says, "She has to get all Glenn Close on him."
Now, I have never seen Fatal Attraction, but I still found this reference curious, especially in light of Dean's random reference. Is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction somehow the embodiment of woman-on-man violence or something?
§ ita § - Feb 24, 2010 2:50:12 pm PST #5513 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it's an incredibly bad embodiment, since she was the bad guy. We have enough good guy women (ugh, problematic, but you know what I mean) that surely she could have gone all Ripley on his ass or something, you know?
Also...I'm sure Glenn would like to move past that. She doesn't even list it as a favourite role.
Morgana - Feb 24, 2010 3:12:23 pm PST #5514 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
I always thought the Glenn Close role in Fatal Attraction was a specific type of "embodiment of woman-on-man violence," since in addition to being slasher-movie levels of violent she was also completely obsessively nuts ("I will not be ignored.") It was a badly written movie in oh so many ways, but that character went crazy because she was a single successful career woman of a certain age who was bold enough to have an affair with a man she wanted even though he was married. He of course stayed with his wife and kid, and she of course got pregnant. And at that point she went totally over the top (those wacky pregnancy hormones I guess) and started stalking and boiling bunnies and such. So her rage and violence were all triggered by insults to the stereotypically feminine parts of her, not by immediate danger or circumstance.
aurelia - Feb 24, 2010 3:25:16 pm PST #5515 of 30002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
I think it's an incredibly bad embodiment, since she was the bad guy. We have enough good guy women (ugh, problematic, but you know what I mean) that surely she could have gone all Ripley on his ass or something, you know?
And saying Ripley would be better just because it's the character name. Does anyone even remember Glenn Close's character name in Fatal Attraction?