Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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sumi - Feb 05, 2010 9:25:45 am PST #5121 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Sneak Peek for next week.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 05, 2010 11:29:32 am PST #5122 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I thought Anna did a complete 180° from her former characterization. Previously she'd been the one arguing for the end not justifying the means. While Castiel has a personal stake that's prompted him to rebel, I'd expect her to do so out of a desire to do what's right, and murdering innocent people in the name of expediency shouldn't fit that bill.

Also not thrilled with Michael's revelation that the Winchesters have some extra-special blood that makes them suitable hosts. I much preferred it when it looked like the echoes of Dean & Sam's relationship were what made them the perfect agents to act out his issues with Lucifer.


§ ita § - Feb 05, 2010 11:54:44 am PST #5123 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd expect her to do so out of a desire to do what's right, and murdering innocent people in the name of expediency shouldn't fit that bill.

I'm actually a fan of sacrificing the few to save the many, so that transition doesn't seem out of place to me.

As for the magical Winchester blood--they're not the only extant brothers with daddy/sibling issues. Why can't any of them be used as vessels instead?

Michael's line about raising Lucifer is kinda hinky. Angels need raising? That's taking the parenting metaphor a bit far.


Anne W. - Feb 05, 2010 12:07:07 pm PST #5124 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Michael's line about raising Lucifer is kinda hinky. Angels need raising? That's taking the parenting metaphor a bit far.

I thought Michael was doing a ham-handed job of pushing the similarities between him and Dean. Whether that ham-handedness was meant to be a character note or just the writers being sloppy, I have no idea.


Typo Boy - Feb 05, 2010 12:18:45 pm PST #5125 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm actually a fan of sacrificing the few to save the many, so that transition doesn't seem out of place to me.

Yeah, but I got the impression that she wasn't - until now.


§ ita § - Feb 05, 2010 12:19:37 pm PST #5126 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I got the impression that she wasn't - until now.

If heaven's re-education camp doesn't work, whose can? Her motives are similar, her means have changed.


P.M. Marc - Feb 05, 2010 12:59:32 pm PST #5127 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Also not thrilled with Michael's revelation that the Winchesters have some extra-special blood that makes them suitable hosts. I much preferred it when it looked like the echoes of Dean & Sam's relationship were what made them the perfect agents to act out his issues with Lucifer.

That's not a revelation, though. I mean, not this season. That was a revelation with The Rapture last season.

If heaven's re-education camp doesn't work, whose can? Her motives are similar, her means have changed.

They needed to be better about connecting those dots, I felt.


Morgana - Feb 05, 2010 2:12:55 pm PST #5128 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

No, he's a feminist. I read that on the Internet, so it must be true.

I think I read that same essay. Is that the one that said that since he made sweet tender love to Cassie and fogged-up-windows Titanic love to Anna that Dean is 100 percent always a gooey romantic? So that all those barmaids and one night stands he's supposedly enjoying are apparently being treated to the best in candlelight, soft touches and tenderness while he's banging them in the alleyway or the backseat or wherever. (The article I read was doing a black/white comparison -- that is, since Dean was a feminist and a tender lover, therefore Sam was a misogynist and made love like a mostly uncaring rampaging bull. Despite the evidence that he'd been in a happy loving relationship for a year and a half.)

Also not thrilled with Michael's revelation that the Winchesters have some extra-special blood that makes them suitable hosts.

Midi-chlorians! That would explain so much!


§ ita § - Feb 05, 2010 2:24:47 pm PST #5129 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

While I don't think there's anything unfeminist about a one night stand Dean is not the brother I'm going to pick as champion for my gender. I think it could be the same article--she implied she has another article in her about how Sam's not a feminist. I'd love to see it. Sam's unfeminist because he has a penis of death? It's one possible angle...

Unrelatedly, I read somewhere that JA has opined that pool isn't the only hustle that Dean hustles to make money. Is there an equivalent word to fanon for actor "canon"? Because I'm really attracted to that idea and the weight it might lend to his portrayal.

Ooh. Watching Bloodlust. Dean just punched Sam. Someone can't process their widdle feelings. And then Sam retraces the steps of where he was taken. Hot.


le nubian - Feb 05, 2010 5:06:23 pm PST #5130 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay, so I just saw the episode (too much tv on Thursday that I'm always a day late with Supernatural).

I was struck by Michael's comment to Dean that Dean is his one true vessel, but that he had others available to him. Is it possible Michael will ask Sam to be his vessel and Sam agrees? Same bloodline, so Sam might be able to serve.

Why is John undamaged by Michael's possession by Castiel's first vessel was not?