I don't think breaking under torture is an act of free will.

True. Except this is SPN, and I don't really trust their comprehension of either theology or psychology anymore...

Except this is SPN, and I don't really trust their comprehension of either theology or psychology anymore..

Is this new? I always thought that both pretty much consisted of whatever advanced the plot. Where the writers do well on the show is in a willingness to go there, whereever there is, and in grasping the small parts of the psychology, the little things that make the characters real. Of course acting talent does not hurt there. Plei I think once said something along the line the the show has more heart than brain. As usual, she has a point.

The emo chat at the end was totally different this time . . . they were eating instead of drinking.

Also, I seem to be stuck on the fact that we're expected to believe that Dad/Grandpa stuck the kids behind the walls and lowered food to them but otherwise ignored them such that they like to chew on rats but also taught them to read and write so they could send that "GO" message?

I loved the creepy, I said "Oh, DEAN" with the rest of you, but I just didn't care for the episode overall.

Also, I seem to be stuck on the fact that we're expected to believe that Dad/Grandpa stuck the kids behind the walls and lowered food to them but otherwise ignored them such that they like to chew on rats but also taught them to read and write so they could send that "GO" message?

and somehow knew to slash tires and that a trunk full of weapons would be a good thing to steal.

Not to mention how to break into a locked trunk when they've theoretically never even been around a car.

I get the horrific aspect of the whole Hills Have Eyes thing, but Dean and Sam were WAY too tactically ineffective in dealing with a couple of feral kids who had zero experience bringing down something as large as a human being before the teaser. These are the same guys who've brought down vampires and werewolves and hordes of demons?

I actually enjoyed it for the creep factor, but the episode did require a large dose of handwavium to swallow the stupid. I wonder if they've been talking to the Heroes writers?

I've done papers on urban legends. No way in hell does a horror show make a big deal about a dog licking someone's hand in a darkened room if it's actually the dog doing the licking.

I thought that is why the girl said Casper the pervy ghost.

Huh. I think they just made wincest definitely non-canon.

I missed something, didn't I?

When Sam was trying to explain the girls parentage to Dean, then Dean's realization was one of shock and "Gross!" Then Sam's reply was that the guy was a "monster."

Oh Yeah I meant to go back and edit that. Last night I somehow didn't parse the "non", which kind of changes things a little.

For those who iTunes, the ep's up.

Wow. This has been one of the outright creepiest episodes.

Oh my God, for serious. I'm not usually scared by the show, but I was watching it late at night in an unfamiliar house in an unfamiliar city, and it creeped the goddamn hell out of me.